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    13 hours ago

    Well, permanent because if it gets destroyed it you can’t call it successful, and utopia because you need an ideal to measure success against even if its not realistically achievable.

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      7 hours ago

      Were carrier pigeons not successful? Just because something is discontinued, doesn’t mean it was not successful for its time when it was deployed?

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        5 hours ago

        Carrier pigeons aren’t trained to establish a safe society for humanity. So if they get destroyed they haven’t failed at their primary objective. Governments, though…