Because water problems are famously well managed by which government? I’m a Spaniard, and I can tell you that our glorious European democracy™ has golf fields in Castilla La Mancha, and farmers in the vicinity of the Doñana natural park are draining the groundwaters to the point of destruction of the ecosystem.
Are people in Spain rioting due to the mismanagement of water? No. Would people riot if our currency suffered an enormous devaluation and suddenly we couldn’t import basic products? Absolutely.
Yeah because issues are always absolute and there is no nuance.
Yes, water is mismanaged in Europe as well and it will bite us, but we’re not currently at Iranian levels where they considered moving the capital because the potable water situation was so bad.
The proposal made little sense all things considered, but this is the level of competence the Iranian leadership showed in that situation.
Have you considered that might have to do with Iranian geography? Like, surely you understand that it rains more in Paris than In Tehran?
Also, if water management is your metric for government success, do you give your allegiance to the Communist Party of China for it’s anti-desertification campaign in the Gobi desert?
Have you considered that might have to do with Iranian geography? Like, surely you understand that it rains more in Paris than In Tehran?
The problem wasn’t only lack of rain, but also a lot of mismanagement that led people without water to riot.
Also, if water management is your metric for government success, do you give your allegiance to the Communist Party of China for it’s anti-desertification campaign in the Gobi desert?
Call me crazy, but I consider “providing your citizens with water” as a core government task; why you bring up the Chinese government with something totally unrelated is beyond me.
“I consider it a government task. Yes, I’m making atrocity propaganda of the Iranian government during a US military buildup in the region just months after the country was bombed by the US. I am very progressive and totally not running Israeli propaganda by doing this”
How many comments do you have about water mismanagement by the Saudi government?
How many comments do you have supporting the Muamar El-Qaddafi government for carrying out one of the biggest civil infrastructure projects of the history of humanity (taking water from the great Nubian aquifer) to provide clean drinking water to its citizens, and how many times have you criticized the western intervention that murdered Qaddafi and left the infrastructure of the water supply crumbling?
Or maybe you don’t give two shits about people having access to water in any Muslim majority country, and you just want to find reasons to criticize a government on the brink of being invaded by the US?
You’re just building a straw man here, people went to demonstrate because of the water crisis that was also caused by mismanagement (and climate change for that matter); these protests were also answered with violence. My point was that I consider this a core government task, even so much that I don’t those that do it because it is the bare minimum.
Up to you to decide if you want to consider the “Great Man-Made River” as a success, it surely did improve water quality, but there’s no regeneration of the taken water and most of the water is used for irrigation. It also lead to the effect of ground water level lowering; how it all turns out remains to be seen, and from what I read, experts expect up to 50 years of water supply at the current rate (optimistic ones up to 250), not the 4000 years the Gaddafi government estimated back then.
I just don’t like how the posts like the one I answered to imply that this is all the US’ doing. They play a really big role in all of this, but the Mullahs are also shitty and some of their domestic issues – which have caused riots because people didn’t have access to water – were also caused by their own decisions. It’s not only interventionism… both sides can be shitty
Because water problems are famously well managed by which government? I’m a Spaniard, and I can tell you that our glorious European democracy™ has golf fields in Castilla La Mancha, and farmers in the vicinity of the Doñana natural park are draining the groundwaters to the point of destruction of the ecosystem.
Are people in Spain rioting due to the mismanagement of water? No. Would people riot if our currency suffered an enormous devaluation and suddenly we couldn’t import basic products? Absolutely.
Perhaps they should.
Yeah because issues are always absolute and there is no nuance.
Yes, water is mismanaged in Europe as well and it will bite us, but we’re not currently at Iranian levels where they considered moving the capital because the potable water situation was so bad.
The proposal made little sense all things considered, but this is the level of competence the Iranian leadership showed in that situation.
Have you considered that might have to do with Iranian geography? Like, surely you understand that it rains more in Paris than In Tehran?
Also, if water management is your metric for government success, do you give your allegiance to the Communist Party of China for it’s anti-desertification campaign in the Gobi desert?
The problem wasn’t only lack of rain, but also a lot of mismanagement that led people without water to riot.
Call me crazy, but I consider “providing your citizens with water” as a core government task; why you bring up the Chinese government with something totally unrelated is beyond me.
“I consider it a government task. Yes, I’m making atrocity propaganda of the Iranian government during a US military buildup in the region just months after the country was bombed by the US. I am very progressive and totally not running Israeli propaganda by doing this”
How many comments do you have about water mismanagement by the Saudi government?
How many comments do you have supporting the Muamar El-Qaddafi government for carrying out one of the biggest civil infrastructure projects of the history of humanity (taking water from the great Nubian aquifer) to provide clean drinking water to its citizens, and how many times have you criticized the western intervention that murdered Qaddafi and left the infrastructure of the water supply crumbling?
Or maybe you don’t give two shits about people having access to water in any Muslim majority country, and you just want to find reasons to criticize a government on the brink of being invaded by the US?
You’re just building a straw man here, people went to demonstrate because of the water crisis that was also caused by mismanagement (and climate change for that matter); these protests were also answered with violence. My point was that I consider this a core government task, even so much that I don’t those that do it because it is the bare minimum.
Up to you to decide if you want to consider the “Great Man-Made River” as a success, it surely did improve water quality, but there’s no regeneration of the taken water and most of the water is used for irrigation. It also lead to the effect of ground water level lowering; how it all turns out remains to be seen, and from what I read, experts expect up to 50 years of water supply at the current rate (optimistic ones up to 250), not the 4000 years the Gaddafi government estimated back then.
I just don’t like how the posts like the one I answered to imply that this is all the US’ doing. They play a really big role in all of this, but the Mullahs are also shitty and some of their domestic issues – which have caused riots because people didn’t have access to water – were also caused by their own decisions. It’s not only interventionism… both sides can be shitty