• wheezy@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    Are you just here to troll? Bernie* had the largest grass roots movement in a generations. Over 100,000 unique people phone banked for him volunteering. Are you European? You sound like you know nothing about how the political process works in the US beyond TV. If you’re from the US you definitely have never actually involved yourself in the political process beyond just voting. So many ignorant comments you keep leaving here.

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      6 days ago

      He overwhelmingly lost in the primary because not enough progressives voted for him in the primary like I did. What part about that don’t you understand?

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        6 days ago

        Again, you’re looking at American elections and pointing to the outcome as your only analysis. I know how voting works mate. But for some reason you are just interjecting useless comments when someone decides to analyze the factors that lead to that outcome?

        You have no thoughts beyond “not enough people voted for him”? Is your analysis really that one dimensional? What are you even trying to say? It’s like looking at a basketball game and saying “the team lost because they had less points”. Wow! Very insightful! What other amazing things do you have to tell us?

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          6 days ago

          What in the actual fuck are you talking about? He lost because most democratic primary voters did not vote for him in the primary. I know because I voted for him in the primary.

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            6 days ago

            I’m not disagreeing with the vote count mate. Do you maybe have any thoughts on WHY he got less votes? Is that ok to ask?

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              Because historically progressives don’t vote and didn’t vote in the primary, so the democratic primary voters that do vote in primaries picked the democratic party nominee.

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                Do you have any other analysis to offer that is not just restating the vote total? “Historically progressives don’t vote” tells us nothing about why they would not vote. And progressive is a very vague and ill defined word.

                Do you think that maybe media coverage or campaign funds might have had influence on the final vote total? Do you think media coverage including pre counted super delegate votes in every state for Hillary hurt turnout for Bernie? Super delegates that were shifted to Bernie once he still won those states.

                I’m literally just asking you for anything beyond “telling me the final score of the basketball game”. Were players injured? Was the defense being outplayed? Was the offense not aggressive enough? I am literally asking for your opinion mate. And you keep telling me “not enough people voted for him” in different ways.

                Do you have any thoughts beyond that in your head? You keep saying “progressives didn’t vote”. Why? Saying “historically they don’t vote” tells us nothing either. Why would they historically not vote? Can you maybe think about that?

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                  You’re asking why progressives don’t vote in primaries. Because Americans are largely dumb as fuck and don’t understand our own voting system. Because dumb fucks think a protest has power or sends a message instead of just getting republicans elected. Americans are uninvolved, uneducated, and entitled to the point they expect someone what to fix everything for them and refuse responsibility to be civilly engaged. Like you. You’re blaming “the man” instead of the people that elected him. If Americans had intellectual curiosity at all whatsoever they wouldn’t blindly accept obvious propaganda, but our culture prides itself on anti-intellectualism. Americans elected accurate representatives, and until they start fucking voting in their best interests, maga is a good representation of the average American. Take fucking responsibility for your own fuckin agency and responsibility as citizens. It’s your fuckin job to be engaged and informed, and even in spite of all the disinformation that’s not hard to do, but Americans don’t fucking do it. They they blame everything else like little bitches. Like you’re doing now. Vote in the primaries or you are getting what you voted for, period. Fuck off with that “the voters aren’t responsible” horseshit.

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                    5 days ago

                    I asked you for analysis on a specific election and you have essentially said “everyone is dumb” over and over in different ways. Wow, great analysis mate. I’m sure the average idiot in America, that you’re complaining about, doesn’t have that exact same take. You are so intellectually superior. No one has EVER had such an amazingly unique conclusion.

                    You are right in a small part. A lot of people are stupid. They are just stupid in the exact same way you are. Stupid with a false sense of confidence that you have some unique perspective. That “if everyone was like me this would be fixed”.

                    I’ll let you in on a little secret. Everyone else says the exact same useless shit that you’ve said. The vast majority of people ARE just like you. Congratulations. You got your wish.

                    It’s like you never learned a basic thing we teach to children. “Is my answer helpful in solving the problem? Or is it only helpful in making me feel better about it?” You are only making yourself feel better by lying to yourself and believing you have some unique ideas. You are the average American that you so strongly despise. You’re just a bit more frustrated by it than most others.