I’m just pretty staunch about not paying for a domain name, they add no value whatsoever
Heh, what a tool. Nothing’s stopping him from just using ip addresses, or the reverse that whoever provides the server ip almost guaranteed have set up. But no, he wants a fancy looking one, so it HAS some value or he wouldn’t need one, and a domain require name servers, and people administrating and maintaining it. He just don’t want to pay for that part. And come on, a domain is like 15 dollars a year?
Bear in mind this was two years ago. Lemmy was small back then. I can understand someone not being able to justify the price of a domain name at that scale.
Getting a .com or .net is on the order of 20 $USD per year. Having a state attempt to claim the name is an uncommon thing (compare having a state’s domain registry be transfered to another agency or expire). Consider how long megaupload ran under a dot com name while flagrantly violating copyright laws.
The registrar that .ml uses also managed .tk and has had many allegations of hosting malicious sites ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tk#Abuse ) and is in the process of falling apart ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34194555 ). This should have been a warning back in June when the .ga domain by the same registry was lost (and the lawsuit against the registrar back in March).
Freenom is in hot water right now. New registrations have been disabled since March, primarily due to a law suit from Meta. The company is also under investigation by the Court of Amsterdam since late last year due to a dispute with an investor, and in general doesn’t appear to have been profitable since 2016. Meanwhile, the contracts for many of the domain extensions they manage are coming up, and it is possible that Freenom may lose control of other extensions (like .ml, .cf and .gq) as well, which may result in free domains getting deleted.
Therefore, we recommend that everyone who currently is using a Freenom domain should prepare for the event that domains with their other extensions may be lost as well.
For funding, Lemmy has been funded by grants from NLNet for the past several years ( https://lemmy.ml/comment/479066 ) sufficient enough to pay for the two devs to work on it full time.
I find it not entirely credible that .ml was chosen because it was free. Maybe because they were able to get a nice name there, but that’s possible on other domains too.
In the meantime, other sites with .ml domains should probably start working on a migration path sooner than later as it would be easier to do the migration when both ends of the migration are trusted rather than trying to cold start.
Well 2y ago that’s what the marxist-leninists here claimed anyway.
Btw, that link either leads to the wrong post or jerboa is broken lol, however from the “nope” I can infer that it is meant as a refutation so fuck it.
Here’s a quote from dessalines on said post that explains it:
Its just a free domain, like .tk or .gq. I’m just pretty staunch about not paying for a domain name, they add no value whatsoever, and buying them feels like acquiescing to the digital enclosure of the commons.
So then in a sense it is marxist in nature, as this answer hints to marxist values with “buying them feels like acquiescing to the digital enclosure of the commons.”
However when this place was all marxist-leninists 2y ago, they made it very clear that it was a ML instance, by ML, for ML, and they claimed that .ml stood for marxist-leninist. As to when they decided that was no longer the case I have no clue, but that was the claim until redditors came and drowned them out a bit.
The comment was made 2 years ago - but as to whether it’s attempting to masquerade the real reasoning behind it, I can’t really say since I’m not the devs. I just thought it was worth copying over the comment contents since you mentioned you couldn’t see it, I figured there might be others who couldn’t as well!
I do appreciate it, the link for some reason leads to a completely unrelated post, but it looks like others can see it, so I think it’s a Jerboa issue.
True, we aren’t the devs so we can’t know their true intentions or thoughts, but I have my suspicions. If I trusted everyone all the time I’d be helping OJ look for Nicole’s killer rn.
I don’t pretend I can make sense of them, I just know what was claimed when I showed up 2y ago. I think the stalinists are mostly the ones that broke off to form lemmygrad iirc, as lemmy.ml was supposed to be a marxist-leninist deal, and it was one until the reddit exodus.
They needed the one that stood for “marxist-leninist” is why, in case you were unaware.
Nope: https://lemmy.ml/comment/58293
Turns out it was free for a reason. 😅
Heh, what a tool. Nothing’s stopping him from just using ip addresses, or the reverse that whoever provides the server ip almost guaranteed have set up. But no, he wants a fancy looking one, so it HAS some value or he wouldn’t need one, and a domain require name servers, and people administrating and maintaining it. He just don’t want to pay for that part. And come on, a domain is like 15 dollars a year?
Bear in mind this was two years ago. Lemmy was small back then. I can understand someone not being able to justify the price of a domain name at that scale.
Getting a .com or .net is on the order of 20 $USD per year. Having a state attempt to claim the name is an uncommon thing (compare having a state’s domain registry be transfered to another agency or expire). Consider how long megaupload ran under a dot com name while flagrantly violating copyright laws.
The registrar that .ml uses also managed .tk and has had many allegations of hosting malicious sites ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tk#Abuse ) and is in the process of falling apart ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34194555 ). This should have been a warning back in June when the .ga domain by the same registry was lost (and the lawsuit against the registrar back in March).
https://forum.infinityfree.net/t/all-freenom-ga-domains-are-taken-down-by-registry/77131
For funding, Lemmy has been funded by grants from NLNet for the past several years ( https://lemmy.ml/comment/479066 ) sufficient enough to pay for the two devs to work on it full time.
I find it not entirely credible that .ml was chosen because it was free. Maybe because they were able to get a nice name there, but that’s possible on other domains too.
In the meantime, other sites with .ml domains should probably start working on a migration path sooner than later as it would be easier to do the migration when both ends of the migration are trusted rather than trying to cold start.
Well 2y ago that’s what the marxist-leninists here claimed anyway.
Btw, that link either leads to the wrong post or jerboa is broken lol, however from the “nope” I can infer that it is meant as a refutation so fuck it.
Here’s a quote from dessalines on said post that explains it:
So then in a sense it is marxist in nature, as this answer hints to marxist values with “buying them feels like acquiescing to the digital enclosure of the commons.”
However when this place was all marxist-leninists 2y ago, they made it very clear that it was a ML instance, by ML, for ML, and they claimed that .ml stood for marxist-leninist. As to when they decided that was no longer the case I have no clue, but that was the claim until redditors came and drowned them out a bit.
The comment was made 2 years ago - but as to whether it’s attempting to masquerade the real reasoning behind it, I can’t really say since I’m not the devs. I just thought it was worth copying over the comment contents since you mentioned you couldn’t see it, I figured there might be others who couldn’t as well!
I do appreciate it, the link for some reason leads to a completely unrelated post, but it looks like others can see it, so I think it’s a Jerboa issue.
True, we aren’t the devs so we can’t know their true intentions or thoughts, but I have my suspicions. If I trusted everyone all the time I’d be helping OJ look for Nicole’s killer rn.
(This is what the link loads for me btw)
Which is pretty funny, because as far as I can tell, they’re actually Stalinists.
I don’t pretend I can make sense of them, I just know what was claimed when I showed up 2y ago. I think the stalinists are mostly the ones that broke off to form lemmygrad iirc, as lemmy.ml was supposed to be a marxist-leninist deal, and it was one until the reddit exodus.