Hey, I understand this already but your input on the proper VPN is very much appreciated! This law seems sketchy to me, especially after another user on this thread pointed out that it violated gdpr. Honestly I know I really need to take my whole privacy into consideration and not just this tidbit but I have little time at the moment to properly set something decent up. That might also mean getting a VPN, lol. It is comforting to at least know that a proper VPN should cover me.
Hey, thanks for the heads up on the Greek community, I’ll be giving that a visit for sure. Also yes, I can find articles that are trustworthy but they are all in Greek, sadly xD. I might look again sometime though, will let you know!
That’s a bunch of solid info, I definitely wasn’t planning to do anything without proper research into it anyways. I’d also never make it someone else’s problem as might be the case with public WiFi. Guess there goes that idea though.
That’s crazy, maybe its the same thing over here.
This is actually convincing enough! If I end up with a VPN its very worth considering, my thanks.
I’ll look into it, thanks.
To be honest our country is run by a Mafia that has been committing literal crimes for a while now, this would be a drop in the bucket. Ironically, one previous offense involved the use of software to spy on the personal electronic devices of politicians and influential people, both in the ruling party and outside of it. Another was a criminal neglect of the train system that ended up in a train crash with 57 people dead. Not to mention the subsequent cover-up which involved editing audio records of the incident before their release to shift the blame and many other false records, the politicians literally disguising themselves as random civilians that one time and appearing on TV saying how safe they feel travelling after the incident and other things that don’t really come to mind right now.
If I may say, no, I don’t think EU is coming to save us. They barely gave them a slap on the wrist for all these offenses combined.
Well, by pocket dimension I meant some way to access and store my personal data without me knowing or consenting. There’s merit to what you say but how can you be sure that mulvad doesn’t save anything at all. Would someone be able to prove it if they did? If they randomly see one day the company is going under and decide to sell everyone out to make a quick buck before abandoning the ship for good?
Truly I may be a little paranoid but its why I’d like to find an alternative with a bit less gambling if it is possible. Especially since the fines will be pretty big if I am caught.
Unfortunately there’s little coverage in English of this issue.
My solution is currently an under-construction project lol. It isn’t like I’m not considering a VPN at all, its just that I have it more as a last resort. I need to exhaust all other options first since sure, leaks would hurt their business model but life is long and in the long run they could leak a lot of the activity of their users if they store it somewhere (something no one can guarantee they do not do). Obviously if I come to no other better options I’ll look into making this bet.
The condom analogy here works too, because I’m sure you’d agree that safe sex should be free for everyone. Same with internet security and privacy.
I know about the dangers of free VPNs, its why I haven’t turned to those at all in the first place. Sure what you say could work but as far as I know no one can be entirely sure paid VPNs don’t also sell your data. I’m pretty much aware that a properly used good VPN will make my life a lot easier but I don’t like the idea of paying just for safe browsing. I want to see what other options are out there before I submit to that as a necessary evil. Thanks for the recommendations though.
Update: Hilariously, while looking into finding english articles for said law in Greece, I stumbled upon one possible answer for my problem. The SSN that connects to the IP address has no way of pinpointing a perpetrator in a place with free WiFi like an internet Cafe. This method is not really safe, for the law has only passed recently but in extremely classic Greek government fashion, the law has many gray areas and potential loopholes! Tell me what you think about this idea.
Yes, I have failed to find an english article that covers this issue properly, not much I can do if there isn’t coverage. Maybe EU didn’t force it and I was misinformed but the government passed it anyway as you can see.
Greece did it anyway and EU made us, actually. https://bernitsaslaw.com/2025/03/27/law-51792025-on-digital-piracy the “dynamic blocking measures targeting end-users” are connection of the IP with the equivalent of a social security number of the people inside the house where the infringement occurs.
Unless this condom has a pocket dimension inside that absorbs all the “genetic information” that’s in there and gives it up to someone else to put it in your partner anyways…
Unfortunately the law already passed a few days ago it seems…
I’m not sure what the entire EU is doing, but they did this in my country, Greece. They say it has already been implemented so I don’t know what exactly this is going to entail. Will be checking this I2p thing out soon enough though.
only sources I can find are in Greek since this is my home country where this was implemented, but basically EU forced us to do it so I thought other countries would also have this problem. https://techmaniacs.gr/episimo-syndesi-afm-me-ip-kai-prostima-se-osoys-katevazoyn-katanalonoyn-kai-diakinoyn-peratiko-periechomeno/ see if you can translate this to english, will come back with an uptade if I find something better. update: found this article in english only, but the “dynamic blocking measures targeting end-users” are connection of the IP with the equivalent of a social security number of the people inside the house where the infringement occurs.
I corrected it in my replies, maybe I should have corrected the post itself too, the law is in effect in my country, Greece. There are multiple articles about it and everyone is discussing it here in the country. Apologies for any confusion.