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  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zonetoLeftism@lemmy.worldNew Community Rules
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    2 years ago

    This rules list is overwhelming. Some of these things I haven’t heard of or can’t think of an example of.

    What is good faith discussion about ideology, but no sectarianism? Like I can be a… M & M’s fan and you a Skittles fan, and we both want a world that supports more Candy, but I can’t say you’re wrong and I can’t say when we disagree it will result in bad candy being in charge?

    What are the consequences for bad behavior? Am I gonna have my comment removed? Will that removal include an explanation? Will I be banned?

    What is a historically classified socialist country and why can’t I say they are wrong? That sounds like a highly academic discussion to me.

    wikipedia isn’t a valid source

    Wikipedia is a great source though, 99% of the time the text on wikipedia sums up what’s in several sources linked below. So now I could go to wikipedia and the writer could have made a decision based on 3 different slightly conflicting sources, I pick the first one - now my argument seems stronger but it might be missing extra context.

    A lot of the time I would rather someone link me to Wikipedia than Corporate News (CNN, NBC).

    Oh okay so we can have fun on the weekends when the normies are off from work 😋 neato, sounds like a board designed to be a headache 5 days of the week.

    What do I even post here, theory? I don’t care much about theory.

    What is this community aimed at accomplishing?


  • Thanks for this reply. You’ve shown this issue has depth that I’ve ignored because I like very few of the advocates for the AI we’ve got.

    So one thing that trips me up is I thought copyright is about use. As a consumer rather than a creator this makes complete sense - you can read it, if you own it or borrowed it, and do not distribute it in any way. But there are also gentleman’s agreements built in to how we use books and digital prints.

    Unintuitively, copying is also very important. Artists copy to learn, for example. Musicians have the right to cover anyone’s music. Engineers will deconstruct. and reverse engineer another’s solution. And businesses cheat off of one another all the time. Even when it has been proven to be wrong, the incentive is high.

    So is taking the text of the book, no matter how you got it, and using it as part of a new technology okay?

    Clearly the distribution isn’t wrong. You’re not distributing the book, you’ve made a derivative.

    The ownership isn’t there, I mean the works were pirated. We’ve been taught that simply having something that was gotten through online copying is not only against the ‘rightholder’ but “piracy” and “stealing”. I have a really simplistic view of this - I just want creators paid for their work, and have autonomy (rights) over what is done with their work. This is rarely the case, we live in a world with publishers.

    So it’s that first action. Is that use of the text in another work legal?

    My basic understanding of fair use is that fair use is when you add to a work. You critique or reuse that work. Your work is about the other work, but also something new that stands on its own like an essay or a collage, rather than a collection.

    I am so confused. Text based AI is run by capitalists. And we only have it FOSS because META can afford to lose money in order to remove OpenAI from the competition. Image based AI is almost certainly wrong, it copied and plugged in all of this other work and now tons of people are suing, Getty images is leveraging their rights management to make an AI that follows the rules we are living with. My gut reaction is a lot of people deserve royalties.

    But in the other hand it sounds like AI did not work until they gave it the entire internet worth of data to train on. Training on smaller, legal sets was a failure? Or maybe it was because they took the tech approach of training the AI on every google image of dogs, or cats, etc. Without any real variation. Because they’re engineers, not artists. And not even good engineers, if their best work is just scraping other people’s work and giving it to this weird computer program.

    This is all just stealing, right? But stealing is a lot more legal than I thought, especially when it comes to digitally published works of art, or physically published art that’s popular enough to be shared online.




  • fourth industrial revolution" as some have claimed

    The people claiming this are often the shareholders themselves.

    prohibitively expensive to train for smaller applications.

    There is so much work out there for free, with no copyright. The biggest cost in training is most likely the hardware, and I see no added value in having AI train on Stephen King ☠️

    Copyright is already just a band-aid for what is really an issue of resource allocation.

    God damn right but I want our government to put a band aid on capitalists just stealing whatever the fuck they want “move fast and break things”. It’s yet another test for my confidence in the state. Every issue, a litmus test for how our society deals with the problems that arise.






  • This is cool too… but no I mean like literal person-made curation. I guess it would be like a subscription list, but you could share it? Like a template. And then the person it is shared to would have the list automatically installed to their account. They could circumvent some of or all of the discovery phase, skip using All and go straight to using Subscriptions. Or you could do it in smaller lego pieces like, hey I am interested in a new hobby and here is a short list of Communities related to that hobby, or even posts I ought to read through. What if you could send someone a list of Favorited posts as if it is like a Sticky at the top of a community, but better! And then they would have them all, quite conveniently saved.