Yeah, so just as I said - good guys banning social medias is good because they are the good guys protecting the democracy against bad people and so on, and bad guys banning social medias is bad because they are the bad guys censoring the truth from oppressed people or something.
No hypocrisy here :)
Let me guess, you think Russia/China/etc. banning websites is bad (because obviously they are doing it due to being authoriatarian regimes and to not let people learn the truth), and EU (or generally any western country) banning websites is good (because obviously it would be done to protect democracy and people from consuming dangerous misinformation)?
Did I miss anything? :)
I guess you’re right. If only Zelensky would stop his aggression against the peaceful Russian and north Korean forces
If he were to stop his aggression at Ukrainians, I would be satisfied already.
freeing Ukraine from the burden of democracy…
Democracy? What democracy? Did you mean to say Zelensky’s authoritarian regime where people are treated worse than dogs?
Ah I’m so sorry for disliking Zelensky trying to kill me, my family, friends and every other Ukrainian
He is not “protecting his homeland”. He is flying around the world telling people that he does that, that he protects democracy and so on, while people are trapped in his prison, kidnapped off the streets and sent to the meatgrinder.
Putin will happily send every last Russian in to the meat grinder before he accept defeat
Funny, because it’s exactly the same with Zelensky and unfortunate Ukrainians who haven’t managed to escape his regime.
Ukranian governement is not fascist, nor with a dictator.
It is both. Zelensky’s regime ticks almost every (or just every) description of fascism from wikipedia. He is a dictator. Even your comment in the next sentences doesn’t DISPROVE it, you merely try to JUSTIFY it.
Posting a random video, with a story, without providing a single fucking source (that isn’t russian propaganda).
I (re)posted dozens of such videos already, where my compatriots who haven’t managed to escape Zelensky’s murderous regime either fight kidnapping attempts from TCC, or try to escape or are getting caught and busified.
This was described countless times in western media https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/10/03/ukraine-is-employing-increasingly-controversial-methods-for-mobilization_6728127_4.html and I actually just found out it is also described in wikipedia now, including the word busification https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis, and yet there is always someone to deny it. As for my sources, I mainly take it from Ukrainian telegram channels, where people post those from first sources.
“Ухилянт Iнфо”: https://t.me/+ECYgfpxkTz4zOGNh
“Ховайся”: https://t.me/HOVAYSY
“Реальний Київ”: https://t.me/kievreal1
But Ukrainians are Russian bots now, right? How dare we, not willing to die for your interests?
You also insinuated zelenski is exterminating his people, which is insane
Why? He literally forbade people from leaving the country, kidnaps people one by one off the streets and sends them to their deaths. How is this not an extermination? Every moment he remains in power is a moment he exterminates more and more Ukrainians, if he won’t be stopped he will kill everyone.
Fuck the government unless that government is a fascist one with a dictator, then that is okay of course
What? I just criticized a fascist government with a dictator, and you accuse me of not doing that? 🤦♂
And what is “insane” in my comment?
Eh, and as almost my every comment like this one, it got reported by some LW user with reason “pro Russian bot” :/
If you think that caring about peoples’ lives and posting evidence of human right abuses is somehow a sign of a person being Russian, or just something that is worth a condemnation… What kind of mental gymnastics routine are you doing every morning to still consider yourself a good person?..
For all the people here “supporting Ukraine” because you know, if Putin captures Ukraine then he will genocide Ukrainians and all that - this is exactly the same narration that Zelensky’s regime is using to kidnap people and send them to the meatgrinder (kill them). A video from Kharkiv where TCC attempts to kidnap people from a bus scaring them with “Russian World” coming to Ukraine: https://files.catbox.moe/c72hez.MP4
People in the bus are accusing them of being “a traitor to the motherland” and telling them to go fuck themselves. But you know better what those people should do, right? They all should go and die for your wild fantasies of “but but but Putin will invade the whole world if we don’t stop him (well, not you personally of course, why would you go and fight your wars, but you know, Ukrainians)”.
After all, Zelensky said that Ukrainians are willing to fight, and he would never lie, right? All the videos, articles in your western medias about people NOT wanting to fight but still being exterminated by Zelensky’s regime, etc are fakes.
I hope he will keep his word and finish the war in Ukraine.
Saving millions of lives will probably make US democrats and all the other sadists very sad though :)
The Americans are going to get out of this war,
I just hope he is correct
What do you mean “survive”? We will win a moment, there are millions of volunteers willing to fight in the name of our glorious leader Zelensky. Here is a fresh video of a volunteer signing up to fight for our country https://files.catbox.moe/x3oyu6.mp4
Just send more money to Zelensky please.
EDIT: And even if that wouldn’t help, our women and kids will join the fight, and then we will surely win: https://m.antikor.com.ua/en/articles/730823-mobilizatsionnyj_vozrast_mohno_snihatj_hotj_do_14_let_esli_strana_budet_na_grani_unichtohenija__lider_bratstva_dmitrij_korchinskij
Well, as assholish as he is, at least that guy is honest.
If people started likewise admitting that they are genociding Ukrainians (because hey, it also hurts Russia, so it’s worth it) instead of “but we are helping Ukraine!” that would already be a huge progress…
and saying that Ukrainians should just give up.
I’ll try to argue in good faith and ask you - what evidence (other than this post, apparently it doesn’t convince you) would be needed for you to admit that we don’t want to fight, and it’s Zelensky’s regime (with West’s support) that forces us to (and effectively genocides us)?
How about all the Russians getting forced in to a war just to die?
It’s also bad. Russia is not turned into a mass prison which people can’t leave and where they are kidnapped on the streets though, Ukraine is.
A man in Russia can leave at any moment.
A man in Ukraine is automatically a prisoner, he can only escape.
Where is the criticism of Putin and his regime and the atrocities that he commits?
Here it is: I condemn Putin for the atrocities he commits. I regularly hear from my friends and family, who are still in Ukraine, about Russian rockets/drones flying over them.
You see, I’ve tried to argue in good faith with you, despite you supporting Zelensky’s fascist regime that tries to kill me and people I know. Now, can you do the same? :)
When did I say that?
I absolutely support Ukrainians defending themselves, especially from being kidnapped by ТЦК. Those who do that are heroes!
Yeah I am quite sure that this is Russian propaganda and misinformation. Every reliable source not bribed by Putin will tell you that every Ukrainian is happy to die protecting the regime and our glorious master Zelensky that is leading us to the victory in the name of Bandera. Well, except a few millions of us in Poland… Dunno how did that happen…
Okay, even if there is some truth in this article - the west knows best what’s good for Ukraine, so please continue sending Zelensky more money so that he can stay in power and continue massacring hundreds of thousands more of us. After all, everybody who refuses to die is a traitor or Russian bot.
I wonder sometimes, if people who support Zelensky’s regime were subject to the same “busification” that Ukrainians are going through, how would their opinions change?
If you knew that at any day, either you, or your son, your brother, your husband, your father, your friend could be kidnapped from the streets and sent to die, would you still support such a regime?..
Anyway, I think this is the first time I see this word in foreign media, despite reading it almost every day from Ukrainian sources. And that’s good news, maybe if more people learn about what actually happens in Ukraine they will stop supporting this shit…
Russians being used as canon fodder.
Only Russians?
I choose to, perhaps naively, think that some people might actually recognize how absurd this is, and hopefully change their opinion :)
Just “watching comedy from the sidelines” can result in one day waking up in a totalitarian hell :/
(Not that my shitposting will change much of course :/)