Gotcha. So when was the last time you were happy? I take it you simply do not do things you enjoy?
And when did I say anything even remotely like not feeling empathy for suffering, or that caring for people disappears after doing a good deed? Empathy isn’t an ethical system.
I’m actually curious what behavior you think would be non-problematic, and if any human actually does that.
I was looking for some images to give a demographic feel, and this name of this article conveys better:
Everything we saw at the 2022 Gathering of the Juggalos before our camera got mucked up with Faygo
They’re not all gross or unclean. They do have a higher representation of poor people who might work a manual labor job or be unemployed, and then walk someplace far away along a busy road to party, crash on the couch, and then walk somewhere else. Just less opportunity to change clothing, do laundry and shower.
Gotcha, so doing good where you can makes you evil unless you’re mired in torment over things beyond your control? By that metric everyone in the world is evil.
I can’t fathom an ethical system that requires you to be unhappy about things beyond your control once you’ve done the good that you can.
What constitutes “good character” to you? What constitutes “success”?
You’re not wrong, the guy did have a lot of privilege in his life. He’s well educated, has a demeanor people trust and enough money to have a backyard garden in a house in a not ideal part of town. He opted to use that privilege to get his neighbors to join their backyards together to have a community garden, and then used a city/state program to use their pooled money to buy an empty lot and an unoccupied house to finish the block. Instead of selling the house for profit, they opted to give it to someone in need.
I’m not sure what full story you’re looking for. Dudes a community college astronomy professor who spent some time maintaining billing software.
My point isn’t "oh my God, everyone in the US is a saint!” it’s that the notion that “because the US has fundamental structural problems, anyone who isn’t a miserable failure is inherently evil” is just profoundly misguided.
Either your definition of success is setup such that it says more about you than other people, or you just fundamentally haven’t encountered many people.
What’s your definition of “success”? How many Americans do you think are engaged in “evil bullshit”?
You can take away the qualifiers. :) and it’s not instinctual, just practiced.
The notion that athletics doesn’t require intelligence draws away from the understanding of exactly how much practice it takes to hone the skills to that level.
And, for a fun reference, the typical NFL player has significantly more traditional education than the average person.
Oh, I feel fine, thanks for caring though. I’m just uninterested in catering to your notion that we need to ignore all context to the words people use or else the racists might not take something seriously.
Fruit juice naturally has around 0.5% alcohol. It’s just a side effect of wet sugar.
There’s no legal federal limit, it’s all state law. Some states go by that 0.5%. others go by a definition that includes “things sold as beer” essentially.
"You are holding a container. It is labeled beer. Do not give it to anyone under 21.”
Other times stores just assume and card everyone because it’s waaay easier than nuance and you’re not legally required to sell non-alcoholic beverages to minors.
… That’s everything at home depot. I don’t know that they have a product that isn’t able to be weaponized, and not just in the most literal sense.
It’s common and they were already in place when prohibition ended.
So after a good chunk of time with all the breweries becoming unavailable, they were fast to start selling and it just became a common brand.
Having the three key elements to an alcohol consumed for social purposes rather than taste also helped: cheap, available and cheap.
We’ve got others around, but they’re generally not everywhere.
I don’t know that I’ve ever heard anyone say they like the taste though. I think the closest I’ve heard is someone saying they like how it’s cold.
The real reason is you don’t. Not in every state. Some defined it by a strict measurable standard. Others defined it to close off what’s depicted in this image. Others defined it to describe what was banned as oppressed to what you measure, so that if you’re selling beer you can’t sell it to kids. No checking labels, no “well, it’s my home brew so I don’t know”. Is it beer? You can’t sell it to kids.
The last one is almost funny because you can almost feel the confusion about why the concept of non-alcoholic beer even exists.
Technically the drinking age isn’t a national law at all. Setting the state law to alignment is a precondition for national highway funding. A state can set the age to whatever they want, but the federal government wouldn’t give money for road maintenance.
As such, different states define a prohibited beverage in different ways. Some set the limit based on a set alcohol limit. Others based on intent or similarity, essentially so that they can prevent advertising alcoholfree beverages to kids and getting them in the habit at an impressionable age.
Most common is the abv limit based on what’s typically found naturally in juices and such, with limited exceptions for religious ceremonies, parental supervision, or accidental ingestion and such. (Technically speaking, if you call 911 because your 3 year old stole a canned alcoholic beverage off the counter and drank a bunch before you noticed and you’re scared, they would be required to also give you and the child legal penalties without that clause).
Gotcha. So would you rank yourself as mostly unhappy, destitute and unwell?
Can you think of anyone in our society who’s doing alright within the confines of a broken system, or do you think that everyone’s existence is inseperable from the context of that existence, even if the means of changing it or it’s impact are outside of their reach? Somewhere in the middle?
I met a guy who helps manage a homeless shelter and food bank. Stand-up guy. Makes ends meet, is doing what he can where he can. Generally happy guy with a family. Pretty twisted right? Or my former coworker who let his gardening hobby get out of hand and ended up running a community garden that retrofitted two houses to donate to families in need.
People exist in their circumstances, but they’re not defined by them. How you react to those circumstances speaks to your character, not that you exist in them.
The thing there is that when people say “people are attracted to intelligence” the intelligence people think of is different than the type people are generally attracted to.
Highly analytical intelligence is a type of intelligence. So is the ability to make correct choices in a variety of situations.
Almost every athletic endeavor entails being able to assess situations quickly and accurately, and know how to respond. Team sports require group coordination, training and predicting teammates behavior.
That’s intelligence, but it’s often considered a lesser sort than the analytical sort.
It’s why people see the people doing work that requires the type of less prestigious intelligence as less intelligent, and see people being drawn to them as proof that people aren’t really drawn to intelligence.
To be blunt: it doesn’t matter how strong you are if can’t read or get confused by the garage door opener every day.
It’s the same as saying that people aren’t attracted to appearance because plenty of people are drawn to normal attractiveness people.
Yes, it is. Someone who can do well in society and their lives while being generally good to those around them is often considered a good catch.
Thinking that anyone who succeeds in life in our society must be one of the like, less than 10% who are ghouls is odd.
My new interpretation is that the mirror is saying snow white is the most impartial.
Considering she’s an evil queen, assassinating an impartial child judge still fits with the story.
People in charge of the company I work for are actively delusional.
We had a four hour mandatory meeting to go over our product strategy. The high level vision. For the engineers. No rest breaks. It was announced there would be a test on the materials. Not as a joke.
The top question in the Qa section afterwards was “what is our product strategy?”.
The meeting had roughly 10k attendees.
“AI agents are going to become so pervasive that we’ll need to put a computer on every desk in every office. I’m serious: have you tried to buy a Mac mini lately? They’re just not available”. “Datacenters in space”.
We think they were announcing a new product dashboard, but we’re not sure.
A huge amount of freakout about how AI will make everything different and better that most people on the ground don’t agree with, but we’re mandated to reorganize stuff according to the theory of how it should work in their vision. Teams that change and shift every few weeks. No fixed goals in the week to week timescales. Less planning, more demos, and development goals dictated by higher ups AI agents.
When it all shits the bed they won’t be the ones getting fired. They’ll be the ones collecting the same paycheck and talking about how “limited restructuring” is hard for everyone, but market forces dictate.
I’ve never been under the impression that my work makes the world a better place. I’ve always sold a product that goes to companies that do stuff that might help someone else help people.
It’s someone else having a goddamened coke bender on 50k people’s livelihoods with no consequences that has me down.
I use one to two pea sized … Servings? I’m not sure what you call a single brushing session worth of toothpaste. Serving feels wrong, and so does dose, portions or squeeze.
I use one to two pea sized dollops of toothpaste two to three times a day. I know I should use a bit less but I can’t be bothered to not overshoot a little, and too little toothpaste feels like garbage.
Depending on what I eat for lunch and if I’m home I’ll brush after lunch.
I’m willing to bet the biggest difference in duration of tubes is the brand. I know some of the specialty toothpaste tubes are literally a quarter the size of my standard issue toothpaste.
Wah wah, you’re crying because no one was persuaded by your attempt to cover for racist bullshit.
If the OP didn’t say anything racist, then the person you replied to also never called them racist, technically. Or, if you think they did, then it was by implication. Just like the original racism! Which means you can understand it!
no one takes this shit seriously
Yeah they do. Are you trying to make yourself feel better by normalizing a passive level of racism?
I won’t disagree with what you said, but I’ll disagree that it’s the same point I was making.
My point was that there isn’t a technical solution to traffic congestion. You need less fluid or a bigger pipe. What you correctly mention is why a bigger pipe won’t work for humans when it does for water.
And out of pure pedantry, I’d disagree purely because my analogy said “non-newtownian liquid” - those don’t expand. :P it’s more like a hyperactive toddler manically jamming silly putty into a PVC pipe.
You brought up being successful in a broken system being bad. I pointed out how one can do good in a system that’s broken, acknowledge that which they can’t fix, and not get hung up on it and find happiness. You seemed to take that as an ethical issue, which is why I brought up ethics.
I can’t think of an ethical system that requires one to be unhappy while doing good where they can simply because there still exists suffering.
Are you mistaking the word “good” for “well”? Are you thinking I’m saying it’s okay to smile at misery? Because what you said was my interpretation doesn’t even parse right.
If someone has done everything they can to help those it’s in their power to help, and they’ve done stuff to make a living like “teach astronomy”, I don’t know how you can say it’s worrisome that this person plays with their children at a park, or enjoys a birthday party. I’m not talking specific feelings of happiness at specific moments when contemplating specific news items or aspects of reality, I’m talking general life satisfaction.
The EU drowning thousands of refugees isn’t cause for me to have clinical depression. I’m sad when I think about it, but it’s beyond my control entirely.
You’ve still never given any actual examples of not problematic behavior by your metrics, or clarified if you’ve ever felt happiness.