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  • Totally. I think some of the issue is “coffee cup” vs “cup of coffee”, with one being the volume of the mug and the other being the amount of coffee in said mug.

    With the medical advice, I think it kinda deliberately vague, since you can’t be that precise at home and they don’t know the number that precisely to begin with.


  • I believe the standard cup of coffee is defined as 8oz/250ml. With interview studies like that it’s harder to get exact measurements so they have big error bars and rely on having a standard reply to show the person how big a cup is.

    Technically, what they end up concluding is that people who drink an amount of coffee they would describe to someone with a clipboard as 2-3 cups are less anxious. I’m willing to bet there’s a good correlation between between that and drinking between 400 and 750 mL of coffee a day as well. :P




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    4 days ago

    If you look at any of the reviewed research by academics, it’s pretty clear it’s something they want to look at more, but it’s hardly a definitive “horrible for you” or destroying the blood brain barrier.

    That was literally in my comment.

    you just gave a blanket ignorant statement that emulsifiers do not cause damage to the human body

    Not what I said. Try reading again. Hint: I objected to you saying something was definitive and “destroyed the blood brain barrier” when they’re at the point of “this might be a thing that’s relevant and we need more research”.

    which is just not fucking true

    … According to a random article in the guardian, and “common knowledge”. News agencies are notoriously bad at reporting science and health news, and without evidence “common knowledge” is just a rumor.

    The link I shared is a typical piece of research on the topic. It’s not intended to “refute” anything. You’ll not that their conclusion is “we should probably check on this more” because humans aren’t mice and they don’t consume emulsifiers the way they do in lab studies.




  • An article in the guardian is not a resoundingly strong source, particularly given how news sources like to report health topics.

    If you look at any of the reviewed research by academics, it’s pretty clear it’s something they want to look at more, but it’s hardly a definitive “horrible for you” or destroying the blood brain barrier.
    In one study they only let mice drink emulsified water, and then gave them a food substance they were allergic to. This resulted in an increase in diarrhea.

    If you’re going to cite the guardian and “common knowledge” as your source, you might hold off on the “head in ass” accusations.



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    5 days ago

    Citation needed. Most of the emulsifiers in ice cream are simply different sticky carbohydrates. Usually beans.

    Studies show that there might be an impact that contributes to risk factors leading to an increased risk of certain metabolic disorders. This means that we need more study, not that there’s anything that warrants changes in behavior or saying anything definitive.





  • So do you think 30 year olds should be considered children, legally? Some intermediate thing where they get some rights but not all?

    Adulthood, as a human concept as opposed to a strict biological classification, is a medley of biological, legal and social definitions. Do you exist in society independently, or under the explicit social umbrella of your guardian? Do we find you legally capable of bearing guilt? Are you physically mature?
    Can you answer those questions with an fMRI? We can estimate age with one, but that just gets back to where we are now. We can measure brain connectivity, which is associated with the frontal cortex properties we associate with responsibility. The inflection point we see is around 15, and the growth rate after that is largely subsumed by the margin of error between individuals. We can also see that the brain doesn’t really stop developing those connections.

    None of that answers the primary questions of what constitutes adulthood for humans.
    Given that the comment thread started with assertions about how 29 year olds act and behave in society and what’s to be expected of them responsibility wise, it’s clearly a discussion about the social aspects of adulthood, not the biological measurement of brain maturity.


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    8 days ago

    They’re still not talking what you’re talking about. They listed a set of specific activities and behaviors they believe 29 year olds engage in to say they’re not adults.

    They eat children’s food, have no money saved, no proper furniture, no hardships, and they ask their parents for advice. (Having parents you respect the opinion of and asking for advice is evidently childish).

    That’s an extremely patronizing view on 29 year olds.

    You’re talking brain development studies. That has nothing to do with adulthood.