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  • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.workstoComic Strips@lemmy.worldbillionaireman
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    8 days ago

    I agree with all what you said.

    The one thing we might disagree on is that you believe a fairer system is possible whereas I look at all countries in all of the known history and conclude that its not possible to have a fair system where everyone is truly equal.

    I could be wrong of course. I am not a historian and surely there is a lot for me to learn and hence my question about any historic evidence of a successful fair system.

    I come from Egypt and we went through communism period. The president back then decided to take big chunk of land from the ultra rich and divide it among the farmers. Factories were nationalized, big chains and businesses were taken away.

    Result:

    1. When a land lord owned vast amount of land, he had enough money to buy most advanced equipments and most talented and experienced engineers in agriculture but when the land got divided among many poor farmers, they couldn’t afford any of that and productivity went down fast and the effect is lasting until now.

    2. Nationalized factories and businesses were given to people who - at best - didn’t worry too much if they’d succeed or not and at worse wanted to make as much cash as possible. Add to that people feared of succeeding too much least their possessions get confiscated.

    Egypt used to produce TVs, Radios, cassettes, Cars, .and many others and now it produces pretty much nothing.

    Even China didn’t starts to succeed until it gave in a little to Capitalism (not that Communist China was any fairer anyway)



  • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.workstoComic Strips@lemmy.worldbillionaireman
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    8 days ago

    Both examples represent only a state or autonomous region within a country.

    I understand capitalism is the dominant these days but I was ask more about the entire history of humanity.

    Was there a whole country [ not a city or state ] at any point in written history that prospered on a more fair system?