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  • What they want to do is eliminate the concept of chattel slavery, imply we helped Africans to immigrate then taught them useful trade skills, and imply that black people should still be grateful to white people for this kindness

    They want to say this is a special immigration, it’s one we invited them in graciously to build out a workforce of laborers, but then their descendents became lazy criminals and are abusing welfare

    It’s all just racism and historical whitewashing. It’s not a coherent ideology, it’s racism dressed up enough to lead children to extreme racism without their natural empathy or logic getting in the way

    And the implication of all the prauger u stuff seems to be that we need to bring back slavery in some form, which would be easier if they remove the word slavery from the language


  • Yeah, honestly mocking them works better then pointing out hypocrisy

    Don’t say “fact over feelings, look at these facts”. Instead, say “ok, if you can put away your delicate fee-fees for just a minute, let’s look at reality”

    They’ll whine “no, I am the one who is facts over feelings!” And then you treat them like a small child. You patronize the fuck out of them, and drop the facts as a follow up.

    That’s how they win, they project and preempt, so when they say “The left wants to kill us all” you can’t say “look, they’re literally building camps! All domestic shooters are conservative!”. Half the country does not listen to the words, they’ve vibes based

    You’ve got to control the flow of the conversation, so that you get to make the accusation first. It makes the response look weak. It works especially well on the right, because they’re feelings over facts snowflakes





  • Yeah, they’re innocent people who do horrible crimes now and again, as a treat. But they’re “good people™”, so it’s considered very impolite to even suggest consequences for them

    As opposed to criminals, who are definitely guilty of something, so it’s fine to punish them with or without evidence of any actual crime

    This is genuinely how it works, it’s just cartoonishly obvious now


  • It’s just a simple, clean, solutionn. All the incentives line up for all the players, it’s ethical, it’s practical, and it’s a sustainable system. It even has natural feedback mechanisms

    You keep gesturing towards vague problems with the idea…I can’t do your thinking for you

    You seem very concerned about the border - that’s a separate issue and must be handled separately. I think we should have open borders, but we’re not in a place where we can do it right now. Between the consequences of the war on drugs, certain trade restrictions, and the current tarrifs, it would have some pretty terrible knock on effects.

    We also can’t take care of our own population properly due to cutting all the safety nets and letting capitol run free, so we’re not equipped to handle refugees, and being the only open border would mean a lot more refugees

    So open borders are good, but a lot of ground work has to be done for that to be practical. But legalizing every illegal American? We can do that today, and it would be good for everyone



  • Sure, it could be. This is entirely different from the border - it’s about recognizing reality

    And you can’t just “hide out” for a year, you’ve now just become a shut in. And how are you going to pay for it? How will you prove you’ve been here? Why bother coming here just to stay home?

    I just get the vibe you think they’re getting something out of this, like it’s some system they can game. But it’s just common sense… They already live here. They’re already American, already part of our society. Removing them causes damage to all parties

    Up until Clinton, this was a bipartisan stance, they just never ironed out the details




  • My boy straight up criticized capitalism on television. He said “Cuomo called me to concede” and did a “well anyways”. When Trump called him a communist and threatens him he said he says he won’t back down. He went to pride and waved the trans flag. His positions are full throated

    I don’t know what I could criticize about Mumdani. He just hits the right note every single time. Even on the morning after his victory, when he was visibly sleep deprived, he gave a better interview than any other Democrat in recent memory

    It’s ok to believe. You just have to believe in the right people. And he’s the right people



  • Okay, well Trump almost certainly raped kids. Bill Clinton too. We have a lot of evidence suggesting that. Many members of Congress in fact - MTG said the quiet part out loud and openly threatened them about it (a few months back when that one guy paid underage prostitutes on Venmo)

    But it doesn’t seem to matter, does it? Why isn’t there a mob outside MTG’s house demanding she explains why she’s protecting child rapists?

    We all know already. Why would another scrap of evidence matter? Why aren’t we demanding investigations of all of them?

    People aren’t ok with the tax evasion either, it just doesn’t matter if no one prosecutes them


  • But I didn’t say anything about the border.

    Just that if they’ve made it across and started a life here, eventually we have to acknowledge they live here. Simple as that

    What problems could there possibly be with that? They still have to follow the law, they still have to pay taxes

    After a point, let’s say a year and a day to match historical precedent, they should be able to go to a government office with pay stubs or whatever, and we formally acknowledge that they live here and haven’t caused any serious problems in doing so

    They should also be able to prove this in immigration court to block a deportation, whether or not they’ve filled out paperwork

    It’s just reality over paperwork.


  • Yeah, there probably won’t be consequences for the people on the list even if it were to be released

    It’s probably includes like half of our Congress, the Saudis, most billionaires (globally), a bunch of our judges, Prince Andrew, King William, and countless other influential politicians/figures across the world.

    This isnt an island, it involves the full network of the 80+ resorts, mansions, and compounds where billionaires spend most of their lives

    They killed (or coerced to suicide) Epstein because he got caught sex trafficking children and had the blackmail material holding the conspiracy together. It was making powerful people very nervous. They’d be nervous if he just sat in jail, they’d be nervous if he walked free

    The only way elites like that face consequences is when they’re at cross purposes with more powerful people

    My point being, powerful people are nervous. On the other side conspiracy theories have busted into places to “save the children” in cases like pizzagate, and they’ve been foaming at the mouth over this for years

    So the Trump admin are the ones in danger. They have to thread the needle between these two groups, and I think they were threatened when they failed to make it go away in the last few months


  • Nah… Not this time. I mean, time will tell, but this is going to have consequences… Look how long people have hung onto JFK and MLK, this isn’t going away. The Dale Gribbles of the world are losing their minds over this

    Democrats hate their voters, Republicans fear their voters. Because progressives don’t pop off and shoot people

    There’s two factions in the white house right now giving ultimatums… Patel hasn’t been showing up for work, apparently either Bondi goes or he does, along with others in the cabinet. Taco Belle’s voice was shaking the entire press conference, Trump loses his charisma and babbles every time it comes up…

    They’re terrified. They’re caught between powerful people and their base, and all they can do to get out of this is to convince conspiracy theorists that there’s no conspiracy