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  • Zloubida@lemmy.worldtoAtheist Memes@lemmy.world•The answer is D
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    1 month ago

    everything has to have an origin, except God?

    The actual argument is everything has to have an origin inside the universe, thus our universe to exist must have a cause exterior to it. We call this cause God. It’s not a question of higher being, just that a universe where the effect predates the cause can’t hold. God is not less omnipotent because they can’t make a round square.

    Why couldn’t an all-powerful being have chosen to create the universe such that everything is good?

    I thought I answered this question twice, I’m sorry if I’m not clear, English is hard for me. So I’ll try again: because it’s logically impossible to have a universe which is not a part of God, thus independant and free, that is also perfectly good, as God is perfectly good. Put as a formula, the formulas

    universe = good and universe ≠ God are not possible at the same time if God = good

  • Zloubida@lemmy.worldtoAtheist Memes@lemmy.world•The answer is D
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    1 month ago

    Logic is not created, it just is.

    You can have plenty of choice without the ability to do evil.

    It’s not a question of choice, nature for example doesn’t have any choice, and there are illnesses and natural catastrophes. It’s a question of being. God being the Good, they can’t create something purely good that is not them, or bound by them, thus or not different, or not free. But they didn’t created evil, evil doesn’t exist, evil is just something not good, thus not God. And it’s a spectrum, from almost good to almost not good.

  • Zloubida@lemmy.worldtoAtheist Memes@lemmy.world•The answer is D
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    1 month ago

    Yeah, it’s that. I’m a Christian, but I have atheist close friends, and I love our debates, but it’s because we respect each others enough to accept and recognise that we use the words differently. It’s generally not the case on the net.

    The Epicurian argument is strong only if you have a very broad definition of all-powerfulness. A definition that classical Christian theology doesn’t have, as it recognizes a lot of logical limitations. All-powerfulness is the capacity to do everything possible. So yes, the Christian God is limited.

    One of these logical limitations is: God can’t create anything free without allowing their creation to do thing that they disapprove, thus God being good, they can’t create freedom without accepting the existence of evil, which is not a thing per se, but the absence of good. God chose freedom over perfection, and it’s not a human.thing, but a cosmological one.

    So yeah, this is a strong argument only of you are already convinced, but it’s generally the case on religious matters. I tend to tink that the only purely rational position is true agnosticism, but sometimes for important things you have to make choices without being sure. That’s why I’m an agnostic theist.

  • Zloubida@lemmy.worldtoNo Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•*Permanently Deleted*
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    2 months ago

    I like this image. I’m a citizen of a small monarchy, and I used to be a staunch republican (in the European sense). I’m still not a big fan of the monarchy, but it’s a way to help conservatives feel secure while being, in fine, more open than the neighboring republics. But we don’t have a House of Lords or any nobility beside the reigning immediate family, so that helps accepting the monarchy.