In 50 years, history will speak about ICE the way we speak about the SS now.
Many of us have been comparing ICE and the SS since it’s inception alongside the Department of Homeland Security post-9/11.
9/11 ended up being way more successful than Osama Bin Laden could ever have imagined. It just took an extra 25 years for the Republican party to destroy the country from within like he wanted.
Department of Homeland Security
This is something that’s always chilled me since they created it. To me, “Homeland” always had that echo of Nazi Germany’s “Fatherland”.
Fatherland is still used in many countries/languages, hell even polish uses “Ojczyzna”.
There’s a German furniture store in operation today called Lebensraum, which absolutely gutted me when I first saw it, but it also just means habitat/living space.
What’s the other interpretation? I just see living-room
It is to nazism, what manifest destiny is to American imperialism
It’s a Nazi rhetoric term for displacing Slavs and taking their living space
I see, that makes it a lot worse
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They won’t. They switched it because it’s easy to justify spending any amount of money on “defending” yourself. If they switched it back, it would cost them some support.
Yup, euphemistic language is preferred. It’s all very Orwellian. Soon the Supreme Court will be the Department of Truth.
“Department of Homeland Security” is almost as oxymoronic as “Military Intelligence” or “Department of Justice”
How is military intelligence oxymoronic?
Have you ever met anyone in active duty? Every single marine is fueled by a six pack of Monster, punching each other in the dicks for fun, and eating crayons for lunch.
I have actually, even talked in depth with a few at a country fayre after the recruiter had pissed off along with on several RAF & Army bases the actual soldiers are generally quite intelligent and those working in SIGINT are often very intellignet.
Yet they’re still tricked into bombing brown kids over a WMD lie or for the religious act of patriotism. Doesn’t sound very intelligent to me, it’s like saying Oxford/Harvard educated math nerds making millions trading in high finance are smart because they think mathematical models of reality are more accurate than reality itself.
“Muh Palestine” I don’t really care, what was done in GWOT was wrong but given the world is now heating up I fully support increasing defence spending to protect the nation from potentially hostile powers which could at this stage potentially include the USA.
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They’re deporting non-citizens without due process, which means that anyone can be deported. All they have to do is claim they thought someone wasn’t a citizen, at which point there’s no due process for you to prove that you are.
What surprises me most about this encounter is that ICE actually backed off when they saw the guy’s proof of citizenship. It means they actually feared punishment for getting it wrong.
And I will remind everyone who has any melanin at all to get a Passport Card. That’s what this guy likely had, and it was the best $30 he ever spent. Get yours now, before they get DOGEd.
For now. I fully expect them to start saying “this is fake” and confiscating it and arresting you, regardless of its actual validity.
And this is the issue with the people saying “only citizens deserve due process”… If you don’t get due process, how are you supposed to prove you’re a citizen?
Things may already be getting iffy at the state department. My wife and I both put in passport renewal requests on the same day in February. She got her new passport in the mail about 2 weeks later. Mine took another 6 weeks.
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Morgan Freeman is a conservative who might very well have voted for Trump.
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Oh, I think I might have seen that back in the day.
Innocent until proven brown
I think the opposite is more accurate.
So, “Guilty until proven white”?
Unfortunately.
Thank you I was trying to figure out how guilty until proven brown worked in this situation.
Brown until proven white
i hate myself for upvoting you
Brown until proven white and rich.
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I’m sorry you’re dealing with this.
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Obviously this is incredibly racist. They are just going after non whites, predominantly Latino and Asian, because they are not white. It’s 100% racism.
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So would it be a good idea or bad idea to speak in some kind of European accent whenever one is dealing with these people, if one is trying to emigrate anyway?
“Mistakenly”
…he’s a traitor…take him in…when the records disappear…just a small sin…ffs
At this point, we should be saying “alleged US citizen” and drop the “mistakenly.”
No American should consider themselves as citizens anymore. With the ignoring of court orders and the disregard for due process, nobody is safe.
