Summary
China condemned JD Vance on Tuesday for calling Chinese people āpeasantsā in a Fox News interview, where he said, āTo make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.ā
The Chinese Foreign Ministry labeled the remarks āignorant and disrespectful.ā
The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.
Critics mocked Vanceās own āhillbillyā background and pointed to Chinaās advanced tech and infrastructure, highlighting rising tensions amid Trumpās trade war.
I told you I was not exaggerating when describing things, you didnāt understand that apparently. About ācorruptionā - it wasnāt corruption, it was pretty formalized and normal what I describe.
Any stats about USSR and shares of income, inequality and such are bullshit from the start. Iāve described how it worked for individuals, it also worked the same for organizations, there was such a thing as āfundsā, a permission to purchase from another organizations something in a certain quantity.
You donāt seem to get it worked like in some adult scout camp or whatever with some coupons - collecting coupons wouldnāt help you buy more or less soda, because you were permitted to buy soda only in a specific place at specific time and with specific frequency.
Or in the military, or in prison.
Soviet ruble wasnāt real money. Thatās why they jokingly called coupons for āspecial distributorsā (a kind of stores, something available only to the elites) the āreal rublesā.
The elites didnāt formally own anything - well, neither they do in Russia today, but they do control that property and use it freely.
My bloodline on the Volga German side did undergo an attempt, itās rather chilling to look at digitized documents of half a villageās male population executed for something like āhiding grainā or ābeing a Japanese spyā.
My bloodlineās male part on the Jewish side mostly vanished on the frontlines.
This word is a propaganda marker. Such a thing never existed. It was invented to justify mass repressions.
There were no noble landowners in 1914 anymore, it was approaching something like US south at the same time.
Anyway, no, it wasnāt feudal by 1914. It wasnāt feudal even by the turn of century. Again, similar to US south.
Have you met people who received that education? There are two kinds - those who were taught in universities basically by those nobles you seem to vilify, and those like my grandma on my paternal side and the majority of those āfemale engineersā youāve read about. The latter is not all that impressive.
Soviet LikBez program was more or less about training technicians to work as bad engineers. Training as in ātraining dogsā. Because the industrialization required some kind of engineers.
Why didnāt this happen in Finland?
Essentially half of your rebuttal is unsourced āno bro, thatās not trueā, when Iāve given you my sources for the information. Youāre just showing cognitive dissonance. I was too considerate in my original comments assuming that youād listen to actual evidence and data. Income inequality figures are bullshit, elites didnāt own and they dont own today either (false, oligarchs in modern Russia do own their companies), kulaks didnāt exist (Do you think peasants in 1917 majorly owned the lands they were working??), university studies werenāt real (I guess the first satellite and human in space and the pioneering research and military industry were just false too)ā¦ Youāre just desperately denying and holding on to your propagandised version of the reality of the Soviet Union, with your greatest issue being that you couldnāt buy the soda you wanted, and discarding things like guaranteed housing, while ignoring most of my previous comment.
My utmost respect to your ancestors who gave their lives in the fight against Nazism. I hope youāll show more respect to them and to the emancipatory project they defended with their lives.
Lmao, so essentially slavery, just without the racial component of the US. Please, tell me again: what percentage of the farmers owned in 1917 the lands that they were farming. Oh wait, I forgot you donāt care about data.
I already explained but here we go again: the USSR was a shining example of what socialism could achieve, right in Europe. If Finland had been colonised, they would have risked a socialist revolution there.
As I said, conversation over. Youāre not willing to listen.
Itās both information and argumentation - the statements you can discard, maybe Iām lying, but the fact that itās possible for a bureaucratic elite to not formally own anything yet factually own a country by itself should be something easy to agree with, no? And Iām bringing your attention to it.
Really hard to find sources for something as obvious.
Yes, because the stated value of Soviet ruble was irrelevant in a planned economy in a bureaucratic state. Should be easy to grasp the causation.
Yes, Putin doesnāt own his palaces, and any high-ranking official in Russia most likely has much more than they own. What they show is a drop in the sea of what they really control and use.
Oligarchs are a bit like publicity figures, they are one order of magnitude less significant that anybody in the actual ruling group. Sort of ambassadors.
Think of it like of mafia properties. It was similar in the USSR, the elites used and controlled a lot of state properties which nobody else used and controlled. Why would you need to formally own that if you own the state machine?
Peasants who owned the land they were working were called ākulaksā in propaganda and repressed, because they were a bit less of a herd of ignorant illiterate animals whoād just obey orders.
And Stolypinās reforms were aimed exactly at changing the ratio. And they were succeeding, except WWI happened.
Military industry is the main thing all this was intended for until Stalinās death.
You do realize USSR didnāt change that part, just rearranged it, right? At least until Khruschev.
Even in the 30s people were starting to doubt its shine. In 20s - oh yes, when you read things from that time, you feel amazed at how real it feels, people really believing into that steel monster.
Iām gonna stop engaging with your āI know better than empirical evidence approach based on my vibes of who controlled whatā. Enjoy bootlicking the corporate overlords that plunge your country in imperialist war, at least now you have bananas and soda, even if people canāt afford housing.
They are not corporate, they are children of people who ran your beloved USSR. Putinās grandpa was a cook in Kremlin and fed Lenin, did you know that? Yeltsin is somehow treated as if him being first president of Russia were his main role in history, but heās been in CC CPSU for much longer. Ilham Aliyev, president of Azerbaijan, lectured in MGIMO in USSRās late years, while his father was the head of Azerbaijani SSR almost since Stalin.
Do you not understand your words just donāt match anything real? They donāt produce a response because thereās nothing in the place they hit. Thatās what Iām trying to explain to you, Russia is not oppressed by some imaginary evil businessmen who hoarded everything in the 90s and then took power. Russia is oppressed by children and grandchildren of the same people who formed CPSUās core. They didnāt get that through some business projects. They were the state and they are the state. They were the CPSU and ruled the big country, then they wanted better conditions for themselves and feared democratic movements, so they coerced those movements to help them survive. Then in Russia they created a few fake parties in the 90s, which changed names and appearances a few times, till ending up the current set of controlled CPRF, LDPR, the ruling party and some other I forgot, that was their popular effort direction, and the so called āadministration of the president of Russiaā, which is a parallel government free from constitutional limitations and oversight even when oversight existed in Russia, as their hidden front. Well, thatās all in the past, they won, no fronts anymore. They are killing people in this war just to distract their and Ukraineās population from themselves.
Iām not going to give you any sources, since what Iām saying is on the surface for someone who tries to learn something about Russia and the USSR. Western socialists do have quite a few myths contradicting that, but if you believe those, then you didnāt try.
Not to say there are no problems with the ācorporate overlordā types, but they lost. Khodorkovsky or Berezovsky or Ukrainian oligarchs are of that kind. They lost even in Ukraine. And thatās really unfortunate, had they won thereād be no war.
Youāre absolutely laughable, as I said I disengaged with you already.
Iām the only one who provided source information instead of āvibes-basedā analysis.
I noticed already, hence me disengaging.
From a communist.
Thatās called a paradox.
You are not. Thereās information and thereās confirmation. Thereās data and there are checksums.
Since you havenāt yet done that, this should probably have some deep meaning.