• Genius@lemmy.zip
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    8 days ago

    Mass disappearing immigrants and putting them in overseas concentration camps is more genocide than the democrats did.

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      8 days ago

      That is not a genocide. I mean its evil and we should not stand for it. But lets not be hyperbolic over the term genocide. When we are talking about the genocide in Gaza, we are not being hyperbolic.

      When looking over more then just the situation in Gaza, trump is undoubtedly worse then Biden. The issue is that choosing the lesser of two evils has brought us to this point, the only way to pass progressive policies is to use the leverage voters have to force democrats to comply. That means if democrats refuse to accept progressive terms, that republicans will consolidate power, and that would be bad. However, in such a scenario, ours and democrat loss would have been guaranteed regardless of a vocal call to task. The only power the progressive voter has is to leverage their vote against the threat the republicans face, and if you capitulate, then best case scenario is the can gets kicked down the road and the democrats become more right wing.

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        8 days ago

        https://www.marxists.org/archive/james-clr/works/world/ch12.htm

        One year after Hitler, Stalin and Otto Bauer were still hoping to come to terms with Fascism. Being what they were it is clear that before they had had actual experience of Hitler, the idea of the German workers fighting Fascism would not have crossed their minds. “After Hitler, our turn,” is the concentrated expression of bureaucratic inertia, cowardice, ignorance and short-sightedness, Stalin could not say openly what he meant. He had to dress it up in revolutionary words, to promise the deluded German workers that the revolution would come after Hitler had come to power.

        We already tried accelerationism in the 1920s, genius.

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          7 days ago

          It’s ironic that you accuse me of accelerationism, while you argue for a vote blue no matter who. Do you even know what accelerationism means? I do not advocate for democrats to lose the election, i advocate in having my votes be conditional to the furtherance of interests. The Democratic Party is the agent here, they are the ones who use accelerationist policy in an attempt get people to vote against their best interests, vote blue no matter who has always been a demand to silence progressive voices to meet right wing ‘centrist’ ‘half way’. My stance literally opposes democrat parties current accelerationism.

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            7 days ago

            Do you even know what accelerationism means?

            Not in opposite land. Have fun voting no preference on genocide, enabler.

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                6 days ago

                You didn’t vote one way or the other. You voted no preference. You told the government you don’t have an opinion on how much genocide you want.

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                  6 days ago

                  Again you make assumptions about me you have no right to. I voted Harris under great duress. At the time i figured that the harm would get worse under her but maybe there would be enough time to get democrats in line.

                  It was not the loss of the election that had me see different. It was what the democrats did afterward that has shown me exactly what needs to be done.

                  Harm mitigation only works as a concept with a plan to stop the harm, or if there is no other choice. And that is not the case. You and yours said that the election was not the time to deal with the reckoning the Democratic Party earned? Turns out that time has passed. The next best time is right now.

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                    6 days ago

                    So you’re saying you want to pressure the democrats into being a good party by making them lose, because you saw what a bad party they were when they lost?

                    5/7 perfect plan