Your statements and mine are both true. The first time we didn’t know what a trump presidency would be like. In 2024 we did. I didn’t vote for Hilary over the Bernie snub, but I knew better in 2024.
Despite Kamala being the most centrist thing we could ever elect, we wouldn’t be in a crisis in this country like we are today if she won. virtue signaling, self righteous, no compromise, bite my nose off to deport my neighbor ultra leftists can’t be bothered to use a little empathy. They are too wrapped up in their fee fees about the establishment not listening to them to do the tough thing and minimize the harm. Help the Dems win. elect someone who will respond to pressure.
There’s no excuse for letting trump win and enabling his administration to hurt untold numbers of people through illegal raids, deportation, support of genocide, pulling support from Ukraine, cutting social security and Medicaid benefits, removing narcan from first responders, driving stigma against trans people, overturning abortion laws and criminalizing it, and much more I can’t keep track of or has yet to happen…we had the data from 45. We knew what p2025 was going to do. We still put him there. There is no excuse. This electorate is so embarrassing, they’ve completely lost the plot.
Nuance /=/ doublethink. We were trying to save people… You’re not a good person if you threw your vote away in spite to send a message. People are suffering and dying because of this.
Those beliefs aren’t actually conflicting because the circumstances in which you apply them are different and that matters.
What IS conflicting is saying you don’t approve of what a democrat says or does as president and then actively working in the benefit of someone you KNOW full well is worse. That’s hypocritical.
You can acknowledge two things are bad and still make a choice for harm reduction. You’re not suddenly “accepting” that this is now a good thing. You’re making a sacrifice for other things
Because blaming voters for not voting is something that never has gotten people to magically make the “correct” decision.
If someone wants another person to vote for them they have to communicate to and appeal to that person.
Democrata have not seriously listened or helped their voters my entire life, when they feel like forcing the rich to make concessions then people who would benefit from those concessions will vote for them.
Until then you whining about a voting block that has and probably never will show up is only dividing people.
AND EVEN BEYOND THINGS THAT HE WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, BIDEN SPENT 4 YEARS TRYING TO PASS STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS BEING BLOCKED BY REPUBLICANS THAT TRUMP PUT IN THE SUPREME COURT WHEN HE BEAT HILLARY IN 2016.
OBAMA PASSED THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN, SIGNED THE 2015 PARIS CLIMATE ACCORDS, GOT IRAN TO SIGN A NUCLEAR DEAL, REPEALED DONT ASK DONT TELL AND HELPED SAME SEX MARRIAGE PARTNERS GET SOCIAL SECURITY AND VA BENEFITS, AND MORE HERES A LIST
CLINTON BALANCED THE FEDERAL BUDGET AND CREATED A SURPLUS AND CREATED A BOOMING ECONOMY WHICH SAW LOW WELFARE, HIGH EMPLOYMENT, 22 MILLION NEW JOBS, HIGHEST HOME OWNERSHIP, AND RECORD ECONOMIC EXPANSION. AS WELL AS GUN LEGISLATION WITH THE BRADY BILL, BUILDING INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SCHOOLS, DISMANTLING NUCLEAR WARHEADS FROM THE COLD WAR, AND MORE HERES A FUCKING LIST
AND BEYOND ALL OF THAT, THE STUPIDEST PART OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT KAMALA HAD THE CLOSEST VOTING RECORD TO BERNIE’S IN THE SENATE. SHE RAN A TERRIBLE CAMPAIGN BUT THE VOTING RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
SO THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING HERE IS FUCKING LIES TO JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS
Is it not appealing enough that Kamala Harris wouldn’t have done ALL THE FUCKING THINGS I LISTED??
YOURE LITERALLY TELLING ME WITH YOUR OWN WORDS THAT ALL THE SHIT I LISTED ISNT ENOUGH FOR YOU. KNOWING THIS WOULD HAPPEN DIDNT PHASE YOU
YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE PYSCHOPATH
YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.
the blood of Palestinians, mothers who die in childbirth, ukrainians, trans people, minorities, deoported immigrants, legal residents in CECOT probably being tortured.
Those people and many more will rest well in their FUCKING GRAVES KNOWING YOU DIDNT GIVE AN INCH TO THE ESTABLISHMENT IN THE MOST CRITICAL ELECTION OF OUR LIVES.
IF YOU VOTED FOR KAMALA THEY WOULD STILL BE HERE TO FIGHT FOR YOU STUPID FUCK
Yeahhhh, I hate to break it to you but…there’s a lot of them that do not vote blue especially when it counts.
Hillary lost because the DNC ran a corrupt campaign where they ignored the will of their voters.
Kamala lost because the DNC ran a corrupt campaign where they ignored the will of their voters.
Your statements and mine are both true. The first time we didn’t know what a trump presidency would be like. In 2024 we did. I didn’t vote for Hilary over the Bernie snub, but I knew better in 2024.
Despite Kamala being the most centrist thing we could ever elect, we wouldn’t be in a crisis in this country like we are today if she won. virtue signaling, self righteous, no compromise, bite my nose off to deport my neighbor ultra leftists can’t be bothered to use a little empathy. They are too wrapped up in their fee fees about the establishment not listening to them to do the tough thing and minimize the harm. Help the Dems win. elect someone who will respond to pressure.
There’s no excuse for letting trump win and enabling his administration to hurt untold numbers of people through illegal raids, deportation, support of genocide, pulling support from Ukraine, cutting social security and Medicaid benefits, removing narcan from first responders, driving stigma against trans people, overturning abortion laws and criminalizing it, and much more I can’t keep track of or has yet to happen…we had the data from 45. We knew what p2025 was going to do. We still put him there. There is no excuse. This electorate is so embarrassing, they’ve completely lost the plot.
Yeah the brand of leftist that cannot understand two things can be true is so annoying.
Yeah it’s sad human beings have issues accepting doublethink
Nuance /=/ doublethink. We were trying to save people… You’re not a good person if you threw your vote away in spite to send a message. People are suffering and dying because of this.
When a person accepts two confilcing beleifs that’s called doublethink
Blaming voters is not a viable way to win elections.
Those beliefs aren’t actually conflicting because the circumstances in which you apply them are different and that matters.
What IS conflicting is saying you don’t approve of what a democrat says or does as president and then actively working in the benefit of someone you KNOW full well is worse. That’s hypocritical.
You can acknowledge two things are bad and still make a choice for harm reduction. You’re not suddenly “accepting” that this is now a good thing. You’re making a sacrifice for other things
Exhibit A
Blaming voters for the outcome of an election will never be a viable strategy unless you want infighting.
Are you confused about how voting works? The eligible voters are the ones responsible for who wins in a free and fair election.
Ok so you’re telling us you want infighting.
Because blaming voters for not voting is something that never has gotten people to magically make the “correct” decision.
If someone wants another person to vote for them they have to communicate to and appeal to that person.
Democrata have not seriously listened or helped their voters my entire life, when they feel like forcing the rich to make concessions then people who would benefit from those concessions will vote for them.
Until then you whining about a voting block that has and probably never will show up is only dividing people.
AND ANOTHER THING
YOURE NO BETTER THAN A SELFISH REPUBLICAN WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE LACK OF AID DIRECTED DIRECTLY TO YOU. ITS ABOUT PROGRESS FOR ALL.
BUT LETS INDULDGE THE STANDARD YOURE INVOKING
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT FOR AMERICANS, YOU DIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM A TON OF THE THINGS LISTED BELOW. YOUR CLAIM IS INSANITY.
HERES A FUCKING LIST OF JUST THE LAST 4 YEARS UNDER BIDEN.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/1abyvpa/the_complete_list_what_biden_has_done/
AND EVEN BEYOND THINGS THAT HE WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, BIDEN SPENT 4 YEARS TRYING TO PASS STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS BEING BLOCKED BY REPUBLICANS THAT TRUMP PUT IN THE SUPREME COURT WHEN HE BEAT HILLARY IN 2016.
OBAMA PASSED THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN, SIGNED THE 2015 PARIS CLIMATE ACCORDS, GOT IRAN TO SIGN A NUCLEAR DEAL, REPEALED DONT ASK DONT TELL AND HELPED SAME SEX MARRIAGE PARTNERS GET SOCIAL SECURITY AND VA BENEFITS, AND MORE HERES A LIST
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/03/obamas-top-50-accomplishments-revisited/
CLINTON BALANCED THE FEDERAL BUDGET AND CREATED A SURPLUS AND CREATED A BOOMING ECONOMY WHICH SAW LOW WELFARE, HIGH EMPLOYMENT, 22 MILLION NEW JOBS, HIGHEST HOME OWNERSHIP, AND RECORD ECONOMIC EXPANSION. AS WELL AS GUN LEGISLATION WITH THE BRADY BILL, BUILDING INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SCHOOLS, DISMANTLING NUCLEAR WARHEADS FROM THE COLD WAR, AND MORE HERES A FUCKING LIST
https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-01.html
AND BEYOND ALL OF THAT, THE STUPIDEST PART OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT KAMALA HAD THE CLOSEST VOTING RECORD TO BERNIE’S IN THE SENATE. SHE RAN A TERRIBLE CAMPAIGN BUT THE VOTING RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
SO THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING HERE IS FUCKING LIES TO JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS
Is it not appealing enough that Kamala Harris wouldn’t have done ALL THE FUCKING THINGS I LISTED??
YOURE LITERALLY TELLING ME WITH YOUR OWN WORDS THAT ALL THE SHIT I LISTED ISNT ENOUGH FOR YOU. KNOWING THIS WOULD HAPPEN DIDNT PHASE YOU
YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE PYSCHOPATH
YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.
the blood of Palestinians, mothers who die in childbirth, ukrainians, trans people, minorities, deoported immigrants, legal residents in CECOT probably being tortured.
Those people and many more will rest well in their FUCKING GRAVES KNOWING YOU DIDNT GIVE AN INCH TO THE ESTABLISHMENT IN THE MOST CRITICAL ELECTION OF OUR LIVES.
IF YOU VOTED FOR KAMALA THEY WOULD STILL BE HERE TO FIGHT FOR YOU STUPID FUCK