i give you points for not derailing the conversation with accusations that all anti-pitbull sentiments are based on racism, at least, but to be honest a source largely citing people like “the president of the staffordshire-terrier club” and calling pit bulls “nanny dogs” is not likely to persuade anyone with a brain, let alone people already decided on being anti-pitbull.
i would personally consider myself anti-pitbull but that’s because i live in a town fucking overrun with them and can see that they definitely don’t behave like normal dogs on the regular. obviously we can’t just kill every single pit bull out there tho, i don’t know what the solution is. we should be putting people illegally backyard breeding pit bulls with shitty aggression issues that will never be able to be house pets straight into jail instead of slapping them on the wrist and allowing this problem to continue.
others have already pointed this out, but, do you have an actual reasoning in response to the fact that pit bulls are massively overrepresented in dog attack and fatality statistics?
i understand you mean “the media has fixated on pit bulls…” as this response, and it’s a cute thesis, but it really doesnt hold up to scrutiny; without even going into the semantics of this argument - even if we accept this idea as true (it isn’t), the sheer amount that pit bulls are represented in dog attack & fatality statistics would… still handily prove anti-pit bull people’s point that these dogs are clearly more dangerous than other breeds. it’s literally just that staggeringly much higher than any other dog breed, there is no rational explanation other than that pit bulls are more aggressive and/or more capable of damage than other dogs.
using wikipedia as a source, as i know pro-pit bull people love to argue over the veracity of sources like the dog bite website, you can see that
Tracking by the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) determined that pit bull type dogs were most likely to be involved in fatal attacks, accounting for 28% of fatalities from 1979 to 1998.[3] The AVMA documented 66 human fatalities caused by pit bull type dogs, 39 by Rottweilers, 17 by German shepherds, 15 by husky type dogs, 12 by Malamutes, 9 by Dobermann Pinschers, 8 by Chow Chows, 7 by Great Danes, and 7 by St. Bernarddogs.
keep in mind this is just from 1979 to 1998, so it doesnt include the 2000’s where pit bulls ownership in america really started to take off, making post-2000 statistics on this look even fucking worse for pit bulls, by a larger margin, as the promulgance of the breed and people like you who aren’t aware of the danger has starkly increased pitbull attacks from an already very high number. think about that. before pit bulls even had their most recent wave of popularity they accounted for about 1/3 more fatalities than the next most fatal breed, rottweilers. that’s fucking staggering and should in any reasonable world shut down further discussion or any sort of whataboutism like “wHy dOn’T wE BAn roTtWeiLeRs tOo???”
you know why nobody is advocating banning rottweilers in a serious political coalition too… at least, i sure hope you do. it’s real obvious to the rest of us.
response to the fact that pit bulls are massively overrepresented in dog attack and fatality statistics?
I do
Most dog attacks are report to hospital maybe police but any time the dog cant be found they can only take the word of the person. That’s a lot of dog bites that we have no way of verifying if it was a Pitbull or whatever breed they say. And yes people are really bad at identify dogs by bredds, lots of stray dogs are mixed breeds, and eyewitnesses are terrible in general.
Also pitbull ia not one breed
There several breeds woth pitbull in the name.
66 fatalities in 20 years is actually super low. That’s just 3.3 per year when there are probably millions of dogs. How many people were killed by people in that time? This demonstrates how people make wild generalizations from a few anecdotes.
Rottweilers are also super minimal at just 1.6 per year.
These numbers are so low as to be statistically insignificant. Many more people are killed by refrigerators each year. They estimate 60 people. Mostly children!!! A person is 20x more likely to be killed by a fridge than a pit bull. Are y’all mad about that too? And the number of fridges keeps growing!!!
Cops murder about 1000 people every year. Are you mad about that? Are you posting paragraphs about abolishing the police? There are probably far less cops than pit bulls.
Perhaps most importantly millions of people are murdered by cars every year. It’s a leading murderer of kids (right next to guns). Stop crying about dogs. Fuck cars.
Cops murder about 1000 people every year. Are you mad about that? Are you posting paragraphs about abolishing the police?
I mean, not on here because I’d be preaching to the choir but elsewhere, yes. Lmfao I can be upset about multiple things. I can hate cops, industrialized society, and gigantic overly aggressive animals being encouraged as household pets, believe it or not. I can just as easily retort here and point out that while dog attacks generally aren’t typically fatal, there is a plethora of work available highlighting the severity of pit-bull attacks versus other dog breeds. Have you ever seen a pit bull mauling take place in real life? It’s not like a “normal” dog and I’m sick of pitbull mommies getting people hurt and killed by trying to lie to people about the danger these dogs present and the skill required to own them.
What sort of shitass whataboutism is this??? Like, seriously. What point are you trying to make that doesn’t involve drawing fallacious equivalencies and stuffing opinions in my mouth for me?
i give you points for not derailing the conversation with accusations that all anti-pitbull sentiments are based on racism, at least, but to be honest a source largely citing people like “the president of the staffordshire-terrier club” and calling pit bulls “nanny dogs” is not likely to persuade anyone with a brain, let alone people already decided on being anti-pitbull.
i would personally consider myself anti-pitbull but that’s because i live in a town fucking overrun with them and can see that they definitely don’t behave like normal dogs on the regular. obviously we can’t just kill every single pit bull out there tho, i don’t know what the solution is. we should be putting people illegally backyard breeding pit bulls with shitty aggression issues that will never be able to be house pets straight into jail instead of slapping them on the wrist and allowing this problem to continue.
others have already pointed this out, but, do you have an actual reasoning in response to the fact that pit bulls are massively overrepresented in dog attack and fatality statistics?
i understand you mean “the media has fixated on pit bulls…” as this response, and it’s a cute thesis, but it really doesnt hold up to scrutiny; without even going into the semantics of this argument - even if we accept this idea as true (it isn’t), the sheer amount that pit bulls are represented in dog attack & fatality statistics would… still handily prove anti-pit bull people’s point that these dogs are clearly more dangerous than other breeds. it’s literally just that staggeringly much higher than any other dog breed, there is no rational explanation other than that pit bulls are more aggressive and/or more capable of damage than other dogs.
using wikipedia as a source, as i know pro-pit bull people love to argue over the veracity of sources like the dog bite website, you can see that
keep in mind this is just from 1979 to 1998, so it doesnt include the 2000’s where pit bulls ownership in america really started to take off, making post-2000 statistics on this look even fucking worse for pit bulls, by a larger margin, as the promulgance of the breed and people like you who aren’t aware of the danger has starkly increased pitbull attacks from an already very high number. think about that. before pit bulls even had their most recent wave of popularity they accounted for about 1/3 more fatalities than the next most fatal breed, rottweilers. that’s fucking staggering and should in any reasonable world shut down further discussion or any sort of whataboutism like “wHy dOn’T wE BAn roTtWeiLeRs tOo???”
you know why nobody is advocating banning rottweilers in a serious political coalition too… at least, i sure hope you do. it’s real obvious to the rest of us.
response to the fact that pit bulls are massively overrepresented in dog attack and fatality statistics?
I do
Most dog attacks are report to hospital maybe police but any time the dog cant be found they can only take the word of the person. That’s a lot of dog bites that we have no way of verifying if it was a Pitbull or whatever breed they say. And yes people are really bad at identify dogs by bredds, lots of stray dogs are mixed breeds, and eyewitnesses are terrible in general.
Also pitbull ia not one breed There several breeds woth pitbull in the name.
66 fatalities in 20 years is actually super low. That’s just 3.3 per year when there are probably millions of dogs. How many people were killed by people in that time? This demonstrates how people make wild generalizations from a few anecdotes.
Rottweilers are also super minimal at just 1.6 per year.
These numbers are so low as to be statistically insignificant. Many more people are killed by refrigerators each year. They estimate 60 people. Mostly children!!! A person is 20x more likely to be killed by a fridge than a pit bull. Are y’all mad about that too? And the number of fridges keeps growing!!!
Cops murder about 1000 people every year. Are you mad about that? Are you posting paragraphs about abolishing the police? There are probably far less cops than pit bulls.
Perhaps most importantly millions of people are murdered by cars every year. It’s a leading murderer of kids (right next to guns). Stop crying about dogs. Fuck cars.
I mean, not on here because I’d be preaching to the choir but elsewhere, yes. Lmfao I can be upset about multiple things. I can hate cops, industrialized society, and gigantic overly aggressive animals being encouraged as household pets, believe it or not. I can just as easily retort here and point out that while dog attacks generally aren’t typically fatal, there is a plethora of work available highlighting the severity of pit-bull attacks versus other dog breeds. Have you ever seen a pit bull mauling take place in real life? It’s not like a “normal” dog and I’m sick of pitbull mommies getting people hurt and killed by trying to lie to people about the danger these dogs present and the skill required to own them.
What sort of shitass whataboutism is this??? Like, seriously. What point are you trying to make that doesn’t involve drawing fallacious equivalencies and stuffing opinions in my mouth for me?