• smol_beans@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Shut up, killing innocent civilians is a war crime. It doesn’t matter what your justification is, killing civilians is wrong and if you don’t feel bad about it you are broken inside.

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      7 hours ago

      no one is saying it is right smart ass, i am just saying you should accuse the entity that militarizes civillian areas

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        As I know we have no other information source about hamas using civilian infrastructure like hospitals as military bases than the IDF. That’s because no external journalists are allowed in gaza by the IDF. And in the beginning exactly this IDF also claimed they don’t target hospitals and it was a hamas rocket that hit the biggest hospital of gaza. Now there is not a single hospital left. So maybe we shouldn’t believe this kind of information. Also there are other methods than bombing the whole area if the enemy is really using civilian infrastructure as military bases. So it’s still on the attacker if civilians die. Especially if the attacker has massive military capacities and options for other methods like in the case of the IDF.

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        7 hours ago

        It doesn’t matter what your justification is, killing civilians is wrong

        Do you know how to read?

        IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOUR JUSTIFICATION IS

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              5 hours ago

              Civil war. When one group of civilians is going against another group of civilians.

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                Do you think that the union army or the Confederate army were civilians in the American civil war?

                Civilians = non-combatants

                If they’re engaging in warfare, they aren’t civilians

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                  1 hour ago

                  That is very USA centric, so I dont know the background enough there. The argument i am trying to make is against the “there is no justification” part of your statement. A similar statement would be there is no justification to kill anybody ever. Sounds all good and valid, until shit hits the fan properly. If you read my question as “killing civillians is fine” then that is an incorrect interpretation.

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                    39 minutes ago

                    Killing should only be done in self defense. Dropping bombs on civilians is not self defense

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            6 hours ago

            The people that drop bombs on civilians are responsible for killing civilians.
            The people who starve a population are responsible for starving a population.

            IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS

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              wrong it was axis fault for militarizing it in the first place, by not bombing it they would have incentivized the practice

              THE FAULT IS ON AXIS NOT ALLIES

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                6 hours ago

                Were the nazis justified in destroying the Warsaw ghetto because Jewish groups had militarized it?

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                  of course not because they were agressor in invading poland which had a goverment of it’s own

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                    6 hours ago

                    Are you saying that people have the right to militarize parts of their own country? And doing that doesn’t justify murdering civilians? Sounds like you’ve switched to my side