• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    26 days ago

    How are we defining ‘flawless’, exactly?

    All else aside - yea, I actually kinda agree with this, though I get the distinct impression not in the way you mean it.

    edit - what happens if it’s the undecided vote that causes harris to lose, not Stein?

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      26 days ago

      Then she should have messaged better on Israel. On that particular item I also feel like Netanyahu is on a timeline. I’m not sure he cares about the election though. More like he’s trying to get us pulled into a conflict with Iran before January because Biden can’t stand up to him. If he thinks Biden is just locked by the election then he’ll try to do it this month. Harris’ messaging doesn’t really take that into account in my opinion.

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        26 days ago

        Then she should have messaged better on Israel

        I’d much rather her do more than message better, but i’d take clear messaging over whatever the fuck we’ve been getting.

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        26 days ago

        There is no candidate who can win this race that won’t keep writing blank checks for Israel. If anything, Netanyahu wants Trump to win. He is enraged by even the minimal pushback he gets from the Biden administration.

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          26 days ago

          There’s a chance Harris is more like Obama and reigns in everything but iron dome reloads, while actually holding them responsible for settler violence. If your standard is completely disengage from Israel then yeah we aren’t there yet politically. Although shooting at the UN might just fucking do it.

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              26 days ago

              She’s trying to stay neutral, Israel has a right to exist, there must be an immediate cease-fire, etc. This in contrast to Biden parroting the IDF’s PR. She is clearly not as pro Israel as Biden.

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                25 days ago

                Countries have no right to exist. They exist because they can. An apartheid ethnostate certainly has no right to exist or right to our support. If Israel has a right to exist, what about Palestine?

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                  25 days ago

                  I agree with you. I’m just laying out why Harris might be better for Palestinians than Biden.