i was told in “music appreciation” class in college that, even though percussion has been around for ages, anything with a “beat” can be traced back to africans. rock n’ roll got big because it was one of the first new things available through the radio, and kids at the time were sick of their parents’ stuffy classical music
In Germany, we differentiate E- and U-Musik. E (Ernst) means “serious” and is classical music and stuff. U (Unterhaltung) = entertainment and is everything African American inspired (Jazz, Rock, Pop, hip hop, …). This difference basically exists to devalue everything that isn’t central European in origin
Yeah… Mozart’s compositions definetly are only serious and not for entertainment at all. Stuff like… checks notes “Leck mich im Arsch” or the original text of “Bona Nox”. /s
True and it’s far less common nowadays I think. I haven’t heart it for a while. I remember in school our teacher discussed it critically but not from a CRT perspective but more like “some classical music is quite danceable and some blues can get quite serious”, not “this is a eurocentric concept and we should stop it”
Except for traditional Folk from various European locations. I think this still counts as “Western Music”, even if it isn’t that popular.
If you consider the Western World to be purely Northern America, then I think you’re right, since Native American tribes are normally not considered Western.
Imo, the best music comes from a mix of various cultures, I’m a huge fan of Folk Rock/Metal. (Rock and thus Metal obviously coming from Blues).
Definitly true and fair point, yes i meant pop music in western countries. Also still a lot of new classical music being released. I would be more right if i had said ‘almost all genres of western pop music have Afro-American roots’.
All good, I didn’t want to accuse you of being wrong or anything. I just like to think of exceptions in cases like that. And I learned a few things on the way :)
That’s the first time I have heard techno coming from hiphop and techno punk rock. I thought it was more disco (which also has African American roots of course) and Krautrock etc.
Probably has multiple roots that came together, i believe the name techno has something to do with there being new (tech) instruments and I afaik the drummachines came from hip hop because rock had real drummers but techno also used analog synthesisers in their early days which I guess were not from hip hop but from punk. Disco must had an influence as well, but I am really no expert.
I feel like the roots of basically all western mudic today are African American, if you consider techno to have come from hiphop/r&b and punk rock.
i was told in “music appreciation” class in college that, even though percussion has been around for ages, anything with a “beat” can be traced back to africans. rock n’ roll got big because it was one of the first new things available through the radio, and kids at the time were sick of their parents’ stuffy classical music
In Germany, we differentiate E- and U-Musik. E (Ernst) means “serious” and is classical music and stuff. U (Unterhaltung) = entertainment and is everything African American inspired (Jazz, Rock, Pop, hip hop, …). This difference basically exists to devalue everything that isn’t central European in origin
Yeah… Mozart’s compositions definetly are only serious and not for entertainment at all. Stuff like… checks notes “Leck mich im Arsch” or the original text of “Bona Nox”. /s
Adam Neely has a good video on this. Music is constantly judged on how well it conforms to “the harmonic style of 18th century European musicians”
https://youtu.be/Kr3quGh7pJA
y’all should stop differentiating them
True and it’s far less common nowadays I think. I haven’t heart it for a while. I remember in school our teacher discussed it critically but not from a CRT perspective but more like “some classical music is quite danceable and some blues can get quite serious”, not “this is a eurocentric concept and we should stop it”
Except for traditional Folk from various European locations. I think this still counts as “Western Music”, even if it isn’t that popular.
If you consider the Western World to be purely Northern America, then I think you’re right, since Native American tribes are normally not considered Western.
Imo, the best music comes from a mix of various cultures, I’m a huge fan of Folk Rock/Metal. (Rock and thus Metal obviously coming from Blues).
Definitly true and fair point, yes i meant pop music in western countries. Also still a lot of new classical music being released. I would be more right if i had said ‘almost all genres of western pop music have Afro-American roots’.
All good, I didn’t want to accuse you of being wrong or anything. I just like to think of exceptions in cases like that. And I learned a few things on the way :)
I didn’t feel accused, so all good :)
That’s the first time I have heard techno coming from hiphop and
technopunk rock. I thought it was more disco (which also has African American roots of course) and Krautrock etc.Probably has multiple roots that came together, i believe the name techno has something to do with there being new (tech) instruments and I afaik the drummachines came from hip hop because rock had real drummers but techno also used analog synthesisers in their early days which I guess were not from hip hop but from punk. Disco must had an influence as well, but I am really no expert.