Despite years of campaigning for impunity by the Bolsonaros and the American far right, a Supreme Court ruling has increased social media corporations' accountability for internet crimes.
So is lemmy.ml breaking the law in brazil right now? And rather then laughing at the notion, you think it’s a good thing? Yea you should probably change your name to Avatar of Fascism.
No it’s not, also there is at least one Brazilian Lemmy instance, stop crying in my mentions because someone made Facebook and Twitter follow laws which ALREADY APPLIED TO EVERYONE ELSE. Replying to me will not bring your wife back or whatever this is.
Which countries laws “ALREADY APPLIED TO EVERYONE ELSE?” Cause I’m pretty sure that isn’t how laws of other countries work. I understand that you want countries to pass laws making it illegal for people to make fun of you on the Internet, but that’s a laughable notion.
Quit pulling stuff out of your ass, I’ve been trying to explain this to you because I find the subject engaging. Unc I spoke to you for the same reason I speak to hobos, we’re all human beings, but you were already testing my patience, this is ridiculous. I’m still not convinced you read the article. I’m saying other websites in Brazil have to follow the law, US social media companies have been ignoring it, while enforcing their own code of conduct modeled after US definition of “disinformation” and internet laws. The supreme court of Brazil is enforcing the preexisting laws on them. It seems like you are not grasping the basic details to me or you’re just a lunatic
I read the article. In-fact I started this thread asking for clarification to whom these laws apply. Then you went off on a tangent about Zuckerberg and implied i’m a “chud.” So let me state how I think these laws apply, tell me if this is correct.
The Nation of Brazil passes a law that says the users of a website have to abide by Brazil’s laws. I don’t know what they meant by that, I assume lemmy.ml that is not hosted in Brazil isn’t expected to know nor care about what Brazil’s laws say. But if that were the case, then Facebook also wouldn’t be expected to know nor care about what Brazil’s laws say. The citizens of brazil that use facebook? Sure, they should be subject to those laws. But why should any other entity that exists outside of Brazil be obligated to know nor care about Brazilian law?
Those details seem pretty important, and the article doesn’t address them at all, it merely says that Brazil’s supreme court says that website are required to “deplatform” and “delete posts” of users who broke the law. But why should lemmy.ml abide by brazilian laws?
Lemmy.ml should abide by Brazilian laws because otherwise they’ll get blocked in that country. I’m not much of a free speech fanatic. Ideally if people post a bunch of Nazi shit then Brazilian ISPs will be legally obliged to block it. The socdems in Brazil are rather lame so I have little faith in all of the “dark humor” Fb and Telegram groups getting nuked.
I’m not a lawyer, but, if you understand this isn’t even a new law and it’s just the end of impunity for US companies I don’t see why you would frame this as an imminent threat to free speech. That’s why I doubted you read.
So is lemmy.ml breaking the law in brazil right now? And rather then laughing at the notion, you think it’s a good thing? Yea you should probably change your name to Avatar of Fascism.
No it’s not, also there is at least one Brazilian Lemmy instance, stop crying in my mentions because someone made Facebook and Twitter follow laws which ALREADY APPLIED TO EVERYONE ELSE. Replying to me will not bring your wife back or whatever this is.
Which countries laws “ALREADY APPLIED TO EVERYONE ELSE?” Cause I’m pretty sure that isn’t how laws of other countries work. I understand that you want countries to pass laws making it illegal for people to make fun of you on the Internet, but that’s a laughable notion.
Quit pulling stuff out of your ass, I’ve been trying to explain this to you because I find the subject engaging. Unc I spoke to you for the same reason I speak to hobos, we’re all human beings, but you were already testing my patience, this is ridiculous. I’m still not convinced you read the article. I’m saying other websites in Brazil have to follow the law, US social media companies have been ignoring it, while enforcing their own code of conduct modeled after US definition of “disinformation” and internet laws. The supreme court of Brazil is enforcing the preexisting laws on them. It seems like you are not grasping the basic details to me or you’re just a lunatic
I read the article. In-fact I started this thread asking for clarification to whom these laws apply. Then you went off on a tangent about Zuckerberg and implied i’m a “chud.” So let me state how I think these laws apply, tell me if this is correct.
The Nation of Brazil passes a law that says the users of a website have to abide by Brazil’s laws. I don’t know what they meant by that, I assume lemmy.ml that is not hosted in Brazil isn’t expected to know nor care about what Brazil’s laws say. But if that were the case, then Facebook also wouldn’t be expected to know nor care about what Brazil’s laws say. The citizens of brazil that use facebook? Sure, they should be subject to those laws. But why should any other entity that exists outside of Brazil be obligated to know nor care about Brazilian law?
Those details seem pretty important, and the article doesn’t address them at all, it merely says that Brazil’s supreme court says that website are required to “deplatform” and “delete posts” of users who broke the law. But why should lemmy.ml abide by brazilian laws?
Lemmy.ml should abide by Brazilian laws because otherwise they’ll get blocked in that country. I’m not much of a free speech fanatic. Ideally if people post a bunch of Nazi shit then Brazilian ISPs will be legally obliged to block it. The socdems in Brazil are rather lame so I have little faith in all of the “dark humor” Fb and Telegram groups getting nuked.
I’m not a lawyer, but, if you understand this isn’t even a new law and it’s just the end of impunity for US companies I don’t see why you would frame this as an imminent threat to free speech. That’s why I doubted you read.