• brown567@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    The singular “they” isn’t even the first time English has specifically appropriated a plural pronoun for the singular for the sake of social respect!!!

    We don’t even use the second person singular “thou” anymore, we just use “you” for both of them!

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      At one point in American history the singular they was normal and accepted but the singular you was deeply controversial

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        2 days ago

        I would love to see what the discourse would’ve looked like if they had the internet back then.

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          It should be noted that really it was the collapse of the t-v distinction (formality) rather than the singular-plural distinction, it’s just that it’s a less relatable to the modern era thing to say that it was a fight over if “thou” has a place or if “you” should once again encroach upon its role and take the role of the singular informal tense as well. Long story short the Quakers refused to use the formal because all people should treat all people as friends and anti Quaker sentiment contributed to the death of “thou”. Because nothing pisses people off like being told everyone should treat everyone well.

          Here’s an article about it

          Another fun bit of 18th century culture wars involving the Quakers is The Public Universal Friend, a nonbinary preacher in late 18th century new England. It went better than you’d think and worse than you’d hope.

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      3 days ago

      As a side note, if I’m talking to you, I won’t be using “they”, that’s only for talking about you