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      My husband used to hand them out as a kid. He went full atheist but never stopped trying to live Jesus’ love for others.

      Oddly often doing the loving Christian thing than proclaimed Christians (works in soup kitchens, helping deliver food to the poor, builds homes for the homeless, helping families get access to childcare and providing first aid at every opportunity).

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              This is an interesting-ish article, but it’s not saying what it thinks it’s saying. When believing in heaven and hell and that there’s only one true religion are considered marks of immorality, it’s not surprise that it’ll rate religious people lower than atheists. This is a measurement of how close different people and societies are to secular, Enlightenment-era European values, not how “moral” those people and societies are. None of this has anything to do with how likely these groups are to help a stranger.

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              That is literally not how that works. You said “a lot of atheists” and “most Christians”. You’re gonna need numbers to back that up, otherwise don’t make unfalsifiable claims.

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                Oh honey! Are you trying to validate your narrative that Christians are nice people?

                😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

                Let’s try this, show me articles about atheists committing hate crimes against minorities.

                😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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                  Is this… is this your idea of a strawman? I didn’t say that, but more importantly I don’t even care if that’s true or not; I simply don’t like circlejerking and self-fellating, so if you’re going to say “we’re better than them y’all!” you better back that up with evidence.

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                    23 hours ago

                    I don’t know how you expect a quantification of this answer.

                    But examples of atheists committing hate crimes are very far and few between, while Christians, specifically Evangelicals (who are the ones with the tracts) are shockingly common.

                    I was searching for the story from last week of Christians encouraging hate crimes when I found the one above (from 2022). Here is the one from last week- https://www.advocate.com/news/indiana-church-execution-lgbtq-people

                    *Also, you can see if the person you are replying to is OP by looking at the username. I know it’s hard, babe. Do your best though!

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            • Gestures broadly at the Christian nationalist movement that has taken over the US. *
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              I mean, if we’re gonna talk politics then on the other hand we have literally the entire history of China and the Soviet Union. I mean you have an explicitly anti-religious genocide going on in China right now.

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                20 hours ago

                Those were done by atheist rulers, but not in the name of atheism.

                The current Zionist situation in Palestine is a different story.

                Also, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, various witch trials across Europe and the US colonies, etc…

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                  Those were done by atheist rulers, but not in the name of atheism.

                  Atheism is way too nebulous a concept to be its own driver of atrocious conduct so the latter is straight up not a thing, and it doesn’t need to be. Crimes committed by people in the name of ideologies which explicitly reject religion (something something “religion is the opium of the masses”) are equally potent in refuting the idea that atheists are more moral than religious people. Otherwise, most hate crimes in America are not, in fact, explicitly committed in the name of Christianity; race is by far the most common motivator.

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                    Atheism is way too nebulous a concept

                    No, it’s not.

                    Atheism is simply the disbelief in a god.

                    Most hate crimes are done by conservatives, who happen to be overwhelmingly religious.