A new Yahoo/YouGov survey finds that about twice as many U.S. adults say they would vote for a candidate with Mamdani’s platform (50%) than say they would not (26%). Could it be a blueprint for Democrats elsewhere?

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    18 hours ago

    So, your plan is to waste debate time and call yourself a Socialist.

    Why not do something like say “This is what Ike backed back when he was President. Are you calling Ike a Communist?”

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      10 hours ago

      So, your plan is to waste debate time and call yourself a Socialist.

      No. That is a mischaracterization and oversimplification of what I wrote (like how did you get that from my second paragraph?). I’m already going to be called a socialist; and until the word and others like it are unpacked, they will always be used to fearmonger. Best to address it head-on and take away the power to demonize. I mean just see how many times Mamdani was asked about it during his latest interviews, including with NPR. You have to confront it because it’s a curiosity with the unknown for so many people.

      At its core, you must rewire the literal circuitry of people’s brains to link policies -> socialism, or better yet, Nordic model. But if you don’t strongly link these policies to a ideological package, people will feel adrift. It’s why political parties are so attractive. People like pigeon-holing things. Granted, I would also say that I am not a socialist, but a social democrat and strong advocate of a mixed Nordic Model economy— which itself is overwhelmingly more palatable for swing-voters, and even some Trump supporters I’ve talked with.

      Why not do something like say “This is what Ike backed back when he was President. Are you calling Ike a Communist?”

      I’m open to saying that; but neither is that mutually-exclusive to what I intended to say. And if it was Trump I’m debating, he probably would say “yes, that Ike was a communist” or “no Ike couldn’t be a commie, he was a Republican!” And then ramble on incoherently about cats & dogs.

      No doubt, you need quick-witted quips back in debates that go on the attack, I agree. In fairness my response is probably better suited for a town hall or interview.

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        3 hours ago

        And you think your opponents won’t mischaracterize you?

        Leave the ivory tower and look at the real world.

        Politics is a dirty game at the best of times. People lie, steal, cheat, and connive on a daily basis.

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      14 hours ago

      NGL, the Birchers were rather famous for declaring him as a conscious agent of the “communist conspiracy”.

      The people we are dealing with are either current/former Birchers, or their ideological result.

      But it’d be good to out just how extreme these people really are by getting them to go on the record about just what they believe. I mean…Eisenhower, commie? LOL.