“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser
“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser
Well, since we didn’t sign papers saying that bombing children and other innocent people was a bad thing, then I guess it all can be forgiven. I guess we’ll call it a “big oopsie woopsie” instead.
He literally bragged about how good he was at killing people. He knowingly picked targets, and knowingly approved the bombing of children. He sent soldiers to die on pointless missions that gained us nothing. You can keep telling us that it was actually a good thing all you want, but I think that tells more about your values than anything else.
I don’t know what Ukraine has do to with anything. Why are you bringing up irrelevant data?
The reason we have Trump, is because of the failures of Obama (and the Dems in general). If he had actually done the things that he campaigned on, people wouldn’t have given up on America. People were so desperate for “Hope” and “Change”, that after Obama openly abandoned those ideals, a large chunk of people ran to Trump.
If “bombing children and torturing innocent people is bad” are republican talking points, then yes, I admit that I’m buying into them. I’m not ashamed to agree that those things are evil, even if it is the Republicans that are saying it.
Roll my God damn eyes.
You’re dramatic as hell and it does not highlight the point you’re making. When you look at other wars the death toll are far higher because Obama is literally explicitly NOT doing what your foolish ass is saying.
Trump happened because a bunch of bozos like you ate up everything they pushed on Obama and now they know how to slam the news cycle and plant your brain how they want it. Good job buddy you have no idea how to tell reality from crap.
rolls eyes at the countless number of innocent lives lost
The baby killing machine is always running. Lives being lost is awful and so is war.
But you are all being extremely disingenuous about it. Read how people act on this matter, as if Obama is stroking himself over killing kids.
This is why people genuinely fall for pizza gate. Cause people are too stupid to understand hyperbole
No one is implying that at all, what we are saying is Obama had the power to prevent it, and did not regardless of any neolib reasoning that could be applied, he ran on hope and change but what did he really change from the norm?
I guess vastly increased the drone war and gave billions to the banks, that was definitely a new one.
I would argue some are. I think the aggression towards Obama from the right has genuinely convinced people of someone who he is not. I’m not saying he’s free from criticism but they are acting like he was really into bombing kids which is a good tag line for criticizing a sitting president but looking back in hindsight he really did not cause as many casualties as is pushed.
He also didn’t increase drone warfare the technology shifted. Under Bush we didn’t have that and what we got instead was a ton of casualties. Obama made the very obviously intelligent choice of keeping his men out of harms way. Why wouldn’t you do that?
Giving billions to the banks, bailouts, etc. that wasn’t fun to do. I’m sure as president deals are made but the economy was shit and not because of him. He managed to recover us from 2008 economic worry and had 8 years of solid economy afterwards.
I’m sorry I see the sentiment of the criticisms but, and this is what I think people fail to really embrace and understand in a realistic actual like this is a real life kind of way, what the fuck else was he gonna do? Get soldiers killed en masse? Let the banking crap sink the country and demolish regular people’s lives?
Nah. Obama was the best we had in my life time and best we had in 70 years. I’d give his presidency a B-. Hindsight is 20/20 everything looks more clear in the rearview but when you’re in it, decisions have to be made and I don’t think he ever made decisions that were selfish or intentionally harmful like many other presidents do all the time
Well, I’m sure the kids he bombed will be stoked to hear that he really didn’t really want to kill or maim them, it just had to be done. If only he could have had a different option, like, I dunno, not bombing them.
By putting them in a pointless war, doing pointless missions? If he wanted them kept safe, he would have pulled them out of there. But he pushed war further instead because it made his friends a lot of money.
lolwut? We still haven’t recovered from that. Sure, if you count the money that the rich have, the economy looks better, but for the average american, it’s still getting worse every year. All because Obama didn’t want to make his rich friends sad.
You can keep spinning this monster as a good guy who really tried hard, but all of the evidence is against that. He chose to bomb children. He chose to bail out the rich, while screwing over the poor. He chose to torture innocent people. None of that was forced on him.
Obama didn’t bomb kids. The military regardless of president has bombed kids. Whole government problem dunno why you point at Obama as the king that’s goofy.
Wasn’t his war. Military industrial complex is huge. it’s very cute you guys think that gets dismantled in a day of something stupid.
The economy was genuinely better though. I can say the economy operated better there rather than here and simultaneously know the economy and system do not service the poor or society. Why can’t you?
Oh, so Obama wasn’t the commander-in-chief? He bears no responsiblity for blowing up people that he admitted he directly told his staff to do?
It literally was his war. He literally had every opportunity to pull out, but chose to expand the war instead.
The economy was genuinely not better. Housing, healthcare, education, the gap between the rich and the poor increased under him, while he gave handouts to his rich friends. I can’t say the economy operated better, because I care about more things than the GDP or Stock-Market. I care about how the entire economy works, not just rich-people’s economy.
Obama didn’t do what he literally said that he did, and that we have verified video evidence that he did do?
I might believe your argument about Trump if you had any data for it, but all you seem to be able to say is “Nu-uh! My child-killer was actually a really cool guy!”