cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/43954112

China ended the first half of 2025 with a record trade surplus of about US$586 billion

Exports rose 5.8 per cent in June from a year earlier to US$325 billion

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    You’re acting as if there aren’t large will powers that aren’t chopping at the bit to take the place of United States to maintain World stability.

    You’re acting as if the United States single handily keeps the world stable which is absolutely not true.

    I am not and I addressed that when I said,

    "Weather the mongols (or the USA) are a good empire is a separate matter. "

    In your other comment you bring up how China is bullying The Philippines. Russia also treats central asian / caucasian countries the way the US treats central america. Is that good? No, and yet many might say that a strong Russia is a kind of stabilizing force. A stronger Russia is able to bluff that the CSTO is worth the paper its printed on and have deterred the Amermenian-Azzeri war that happened a few years ago.

    Do I think the Russian Federation or current China with its imperial goals are forces for good? No, but that is a different question to “do they bring stabilizing effects”. And I will point out again the question was more or less as to why people consider the US a stabilizing force; not if that is a good or moral thing.

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      A weaker US will probably bring more stability.

      If we have a few, not too many, but a few power poles in the world, these powers will likely work to keep each other at bay. The US got completely unhinged after the fall of the Soviet Union. There was no one who could stop them after all. This lead to millions of people murdered by the US and its clients in the past 35 years. Bill Clinton’s presidency alone killed about half a million Iraqi kids through sanctions on food and medicine for Iraq in the 90s, ironically after the US, Germany and other western countries had been major factors in building Saddam’s chemical weapons and using them against the Kurdish minority and Iran. Then came the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, again killing hundreds of thousands maybe up to a million of people. Libya tossed into chaos, Yemen as a genocidal campaign that the Saudis couldn’t have pulled off without US weapons, intelligence and assistance, killing hundreds of thousands again…

      US “liberal hegemony” has been the deadliest ideology in the world after Mao has died

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      Fair enough my point is if you’re worried about world stability that there are plenty of other countries who are interested in World stability and will pick up the mantle at the US leaves on the ground.

      Yeah China’s bullying the Philippines however the Philippines are also a bit of a proxy to the US so they’re just naturally hostile because they don’t like the US. I’m sure there’s other reasons and yes they absolutely have imperialistic ambitions but I would say that when we make comparisons to United States or even like the USSR I think China has more peaceful than these states and is less belligerent.

      Not to say that China isn’t belligerent only that I think they’re generally less corrosive to the world

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        Not to say that China isn’t belligerent only that I think they’re generally less corrosive to the world

        PH, Peru and Argentina all have the same complaints on China regarding fishing. Their aggressive ghost fleets will show up to take everything and ram them out of their own waters. To say they are less aggressive is giving good will they haven’t earned. Likely because they don’t have the same power projection the west currently has.

        that there are plenty of other countries who are interested in World stability and will pick up the mantle at the US leaves on the ground.

        I think an issue with this statement is that it just assumes things will work out. I specifically brought up the csto as a non western example of an empire collapsing causing a war among two other parties that were in that sphere of influence as they say. I also brought up ancaps as another unserious group of wishful thinking. I don’t have an answer but I am calling yours out as handwaving real concerns.

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          I’m not necessarily hand waving away the issues you have I just think that there’s plenty of countries jockeying around that’ll fill the void left.

          It’s just a difference of opinion.

          I do agree that it remains to be seen whether or not that’s good or a bad thing.