• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    That quote is such a funny thing. My mom once quoted it to me as a reason to support the Iraq War. I didn’t even know how to respond to that because it was so completely backwards. The way I saw it, the invasion of Iraq was evil triumphing because good people did nothing to stop it.

    That’s how I feel about you saying it to me now. Evil is triumphing in Gaza precisely because people aren’t willing to take a stand on it.

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      5 days ago

      I am doing something. I’m voting for the issues at my doorstep. I have a gay child, and a non-binary child. I have another that is autistic.

      If Trump wins, there’s a non-zero chance that my children will be in danger.

      I’m also an advocate for the homeless (don’t correct me. I used to be homeless, and we hate “unhoused”),.

      I advocate for foster youth, a sector no politician cares about.

      All you do is complain about one issue. There’s scores of issues. Jill Stein isn’t happening. Vote in reality, and for reproductive rights, non-cis rights, rights for the homeless, and for someone that will actually win.

      I won’t say a vote for Jill is a vote for Trump.

      A vote for Jill is the same as not voting. I tell people that didn’t vote “you don’t vote, you don’t have a right to bitch”

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      Ahhh yes, the oh so helpful stand of not voting for a party that could win.

      Like, you do understand that Harris likely means fewer dead Palestinians than trump, yes? This isn’t complicated.

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        5 days ago

        Harris is vice president. There’s a genocide ongoing under her and Biden’s approval. End of the story. She has also repeatedly expressed her lack of will to change the current situation.

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        5 days ago

        I don’t believe in the ideology of lesser evilism. The refusal to hold politicians to any sort of standard whatsoever is a part of why we’re in this situation in the first place.

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          I don’t believe in the ideology of lesser evilism

          That’s a very easy view to hold when you aren’t one of the Palestinians who will die because of people like you making the same choice.

          Small comfort to the people whom you pretend to care about.

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            Do you think the Palestinians in Gaza believe in applying lesser-evilism to the US election? I think it’s the opposite, it’s a very easy view to hold when the people dying under the lesser evil are kept safely out of sight and out of mind. It’s much harder to cradle a dead child in your arms and say, “Well, it could be worse.”

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              I imagine they’d like fewer bombs as opposed to more bombs, yes.

              The best would be zero bombs but nothing you are doing is getting them anywhere closer to that.

              But you are, through your choice, helping there be more bombs and more dead.

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                Gazans do not support the people whose bombs are dropping on them right now, no.

                I am not helping there be more bombs and more dead.

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                  Sitting on your hands isn’t as effective as you think it is bud. Hate to break it to you.

                  But for funzies…. How about you go ahead and find a moment in history where doing nothing at all created the best outcome for anyone or anything.

                  EDIT: two days later and nothing as I expected.