Any ideas for that? My main thought is to further develop technology for the anonymous web and get people using it, although probably some form of overtly political activism is also needed
some form of overtly political activism is also needed
yup that’s the idea, the usual proven methods for pressuring the state will work. extending this to the internet in the form of stuff like boycotting, ddosing, and general disrupting might prove interesting too.
we just need the people organized for this first, that’s the hard part. that will probably have to happen outside the internet first though.
Something like Lemmy could form a pretty good foundation. Onion routing already has created a “parallel internet” that depends 0% on DNS, and Lemmy instances would federate today (with whitelisted federation) via /etc/hosts with no DNS involved. It wouldn’t work well, it would have problems, but if someone actually tried to make it work moderately well, the whole model of “admins running servers which it’s your problem to get connected to, and then they know how to federate to each other because all the admins talk with each other” could work itself around over time into something that actually had some pretty strong robustness to it.
There are other attempts (Holepunch, Freenet, all that jazz), but actually Tor and Fedi things probably have the best claims to being able to turn into something realistic that didn’t need DNS, over time. You just couldn’t talk to it until you set your machine up to be able to get the initial connection going, but that’s not fatal, the whole internet used to be a lot like that way back when.
i’m looking forward to the more decentralized internet that’s brewing up here.
If these types of laws keep coming there might be a lot of legal liability for running instances of things
yeah i think that’s what they ultimately want. control all the “information” we get.
we should be organizing more thoroughly to combat this sort of thing that will undoubtedly be more and more common.
Fascists get mad when people are educated.
Any ideas for that? My main thought is to further develop technology for the anonymous web and get people using it, although probably some form of overtly political activism is also needed
yup that’s the idea, the usual proven methods for pressuring the state will work. extending this to the internet in the form of stuff like boycotting, ddosing, and general disrupting might prove interesting too.
we just need the people organized for this first, that’s the hard part. that will probably have to happen outside the internet first though.
The web is still heavily centralized.
It’s also much bigger than it was back in the day.
Even a fraction of a percent of people using decentralized services is probably bigger than the early web ever was.
it is. it won’t change overnight though.
Let start from root of problem. Network with name internet entirely centralized and controlled by specific companies and people.
If someone has a suggestion/link on how a decentralized web grows past DNS I’m all ears.
Something like Lemmy could form a pretty good foundation. Onion routing already has created a “parallel internet” that depends 0% on DNS, and Lemmy instances would federate today (with whitelisted federation) via /etc/hosts with no DNS involved. It wouldn’t work well, it would have problems, but if someone actually tried to make it work moderately well, the whole model of “admins running servers which it’s your problem to get connected to, and then they know how to federate to each other because all the admins talk with each other” could work itself around over time into something that actually had some pretty strong robustness to it.
There are other attempts (Holepunch, Freenet, all that jazz), but actually Tor and Fedi things probably have the best claims to being able to turn into something realistic that didn’t need DNS, over time. You just couldn’t talk to it until you set your machine up to be able to get the initial connection going, but that’s not fatal, the whole internet used to be a lot like that way back when.
DNS can be decentralized: https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/unbound/about/
You delete comments & have an emoji for a username. Go back to Facebook or wherever you belong. We don’t want people like you on the “better internet”
Yet people like you discourage normal ppl from using federated alternatives. Only true nerd can bear sharing a server with somebody like you.
ok, i will change to a more palatable username for your sensitivities.
i will also gladly dox myself for you, here: