The nuclear option is made possible by the principle in Senate procedure that appeals from rulings of the chair on points of order relating to nondebatable questions are themselves nondebatable.
“Points of order” are different than legislation like healthcare.
The use of the nuclear option to abolish the 60-vote threshold for cloture on legislation has been proposed, but not successfully effected.
I don’t see an argument here that says it can’t be used for legislation. The arguments in the article as well as made by politicians have been that it abaolutely can be used. The arguments against the usage not the possibility have been about the effect of losing their own ability to filibuster legislation after that. There are so many examples out there that I get the feeling you just haven’t heard or read about it. Here’s one. And here’s Chucky’s plan from 2022 which got torpedoed by Manchinema. Please read about it because it’s important to know what shit politicians are spinning when they don’t do what you elected them for. I used to believe that the filibuster was some ironclad barrier that required 60 votes or cooperation from the opposition, cause that’s how it’s was spun. I had’t paid enough attention at the time to understand there’s always been an asterisk - can remove the barrier, don’t want to becauae X, Y or Z.
“Points of order” are different than legislation like healthcare.
I don’t see an argument here that says it can’t be used for legislation. The arguments in the article as well as made by politicians have been that it abaolutely can be used. The arguments against the usage not the possibility have been about the effect of losing their own ability to filibuster legislation after that. There are so many examples out there that I get the feeling you just haven’t heard or read about it. Here’s one. And here’s Chucky’s plan from 2022 which got torpedoed by Manchinema. Please read about it because it’s important to know what shit politicians are spinning when they don’t do what you elected them for. I used to believe that the filibuster was some ironclad barrier that required 60 votes or cooperation from the opposition, cause that’s how it’s was spun. I had’t paid enough attention at the time to understand there’s always been an asterisk - can remove the barrier, don’t want to becauae X, Y or Z.