Maybe I have too much faith in today’s youth and their capacity for tech.
Sadly, I think maybe you do. 15 years ago, sure. Today, most of these kids aren’t using real computers. They grew up on Android or iOS devices, they’re using Chromebooks in school. They don’t actually know what a filesystem is, they don’t actually know what a network stack is. They’ve never just messed around with an os or pirated a video game.
I don’t think it’s the kids though, I guess I’m just pretty cynical about the current state of technology. It’s advanced a lot in the past couple of decades, but I’m not sure it’s really improved. It used to be that computers were a powerful tool that we could take advantage of, and they could make things easier and be a lot of fun to play with too. These days it feels like we’re the tools and the technology is taking advantage of us. And I think this generation that grew up on mobile devices has it the worst. Tech has really been able to sink its teeth into this generation, and they can’t escape it.
You say this, but there was that autistic kid that fucking hacked rockstar with a fire stick so hackers will always be around, but they probably always be the most autistic people you have ever met
It’s true, there’s always the exceptions, the edge cases. But if I’m thinking about this statistically, who’s likely to breach this first? How many hackers from column A are hammering on this, how many from column B? I just think state actors and corporate interests are in fact the thing to watch out for. There just seem to be much fewer gen z computer geeks than there were millennials.
When you have a small elite, they don’t need to collude, they just develop a common climate of thought and common understanding of the future.
What pains me to think about - that these people are really brilliant for the most part, those whose names I know. Even Steve Jobs. And they were brilliant still for a few years after getting significant power.
That power still corrupted them, and this amount of “brilliant” is like a whole era, a whole phenomenon of humanity, being proven wrong.
Early 90s Apple is very nice to learn about, and early 90s Microsoft was powerful, but not evil yet, and early 90s Oracle was a really good company. And remember what Google was in its early years, they seemed the front line of the new age of openness and freedom. I won’t say anything good about early Facebook, but apparently it too managed to be good for someone.
Thank you for your response, I agree with everything you say, But corporations are eternal, people live and die, but the corporation will live on and sometimes I think they have ideas of their own. Like the individual people dying are just like the brain cells of the corporation individually dying, but it can regenerate those lost axons. I’m just being colorful I don’t actually believe corporations have their own internal brain
Heh, maybe the problem started when they changed their name. They aren’t “Apple Computer” any more, they’re just “Apple”. That must have happened somewhere around 2005.
Autistic special interest is not about knowing a subject well, it’s about fetish\fixation on that subject ; say, I’ve done a lot of fixing old AfterStep dockapps that don’t compile anymore, or programs from the 90s for X11, to reproduce the vibe of using a Unix-like system then. I still haven’t written a single Linux or FreeBSD driver. I haven’t even written a single Java program. BTW, found the old (Sun-era, judging by the icons and pics there ; old doesn’t mean obsolete for me, I’m fine with simple OOP and don’t need generics or lambdas or such, I know these are cool) “Java Tutorials” on the Oracle site and realized that those are almost as easy to use to make your own simple applications as TCL documentation, except Java is far more powerful (due to ability to use all the Java libraries around). And now I do know what I want to make, so the next weekend might not go in vain.
There’s genius (I dunno, someone like Wernher von Braun), there’s autistic (someone like me or your random strange kid, a real life Asakura Yoh), and there’s autistic genius (multiply the rareness of both and get the probability of a person being that ; I suppose the kinds of genius to make rare notable achievements are usually both, but not always).
See, but even the swatters are script-kiddie equivalents. Most of the ‘computer nerds’ that some people in this thread are fetishizing / waxing nostalgic about were just following advice and guides of much more capable adults in the various industries. So if any smart person starts releasing guides about the drones’ systems, then sure, we’ll see some kids hack them, but I doubt we’ll see it happen, considering the drones’ rarity and limited access for most folks.
State sponsored actors? I’m 30% on that, 70% on one of the kids doing it. Maybe I have too much faith in today’s youth and their capacity for tech.
Sadly, I think maybe you do. 15 years ago, sure. Today, most of these kids aren’t using real computers. They grew up on Android or iOS devices, they’re using Chromebooks in school. They don’t actually know what a filesystem is, they don’t actually know what a network stack is. They’ve never just messed around with an os or pirated a video game.
I don’t think it’s the kids though, I guess I’m just pretty cynical about the current state of technology. It’s advanced a lot in the past couple of decades, but I’m not sure it’s really improved. It used to be that computers were a powerful tool that we could take advantage of, and they could make things easier and be a lot of fun to play with too. These days it feels like we’re the tools and the technology is taking advantage of us. And I think this generation that grew up on mobile devices has it the worst. Tech has really been able to sink its teeth into this generation, and they can’t escape it.
You say this, but there was that autistic kid that fucking hacked rockstar with a fire stick so hackers will always be around, but they probably always be the most autistic people you have ever met
It’s true, there’s always the exceptions, the edge cases. But if I’m thinking about this statistically, who’s likely to breach this first? How many hackers from column A are hammering on this, how many from column B? I just think state actors and corporate interests are in fact the thing to watch out for. There just seem to be much fewer gen z computer geeks than there were millennials.
Maybe Apple Computer colluded with the United States government dumb everybody down to keep themselves safe safer Who Knows lol
When you have a small elite, they don’t need to collude, they just develop a common climate of thought and common understanding of the future.
What pains me to think about - that these people are really brilliant for the most part, those whose names I know. Even Steve Jobs. And they were brilliant still for a few years after getting significant power.
That power still corrupted them, and this amount of “brilliant” is like a whole era, a whole phenomenon of humanity, being proven wrong.
Early 90s Apple is very nice to learn about, and early 90s Microsoft was powerful, but not evil yet, and early 90s Oracle was a really good company. And remember what Google was in its early years, they seemed the front line of the new age of openness and freedom. I won’t say anything good about early Facebook, but apparently it too managed to be good for someone.
So much for corporate propaganda.
Thank you for your response, I agree with everything you say, But corporations are eternal, people live and die, but the corporation will live on and sometimes I think they have ideas of their own. Like the individual people dying are just like the brain cells of the corporation individually dying, but it can regenerate those lost axons. I’m just being colorful I don’t actually believe corporations have their own internal brain
Heh, maybe the problem started when they changed their name. They aren’t “Apple Computer” any more, they’re just “Apple”. That must have happened somewhere around 2005.
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Autistic doesn’t equal genius.
Autistic special interest is not about knowing a subject well, it’s about fetish\fixation on that subject ; say, I’ve done a lot of fixing old AfterStep dockapps that don’t compile anymore, or programs from the 90s for X11, to reproduce the vibe of using a Unix-like system then. I still haven’t written a single Linux or FreeBSD driver. I haven’t even written a single Java program. BTW, found the old (Sun-era, judging by the icons and pics there ; old doesn’t mean obsolete for me, I’m fine with simple OOP and don’t need generics or lambdas or such, I know these are cool) “Java Tutorials” on the Oracle site and realized that those are almost as easy to use to make your own simple applications as TCL documentation, except Java is far more powerful (due to ability to use all the Java libraries around). And now I do know what I want to make, so the next weekend might not go in vain.
There’s genius (I dunno, someone like Wernher von Braun), there’s autistic (someone like me or your random strange kid, a real life Asakura Yoh), and there’s autistic genius (multiply the rareness of both and get the probability of a person being that ; I suppose the kinds of genius to make rare notable achievements are usually both, but not always).
Most kids are too fucking dumb. The blyats will do it.
It only takes one.
Could be some incel hackers from 4chan. Like people who engage in swatting would like this.
See, but even the swatters are script-kiddie equivalents. Most of the ‘computer nerds’ that some people in this thread are fetishizing / waxing nostalgic about were just following advice and guides of much more capable adults in the various industries. So if any smart person starts releasing guides about the drones’ systems, then sure, we’ll see some kids hack them, but I doubt we’ll see it happen, considering the drones’ rarity and limited access for most folks.