In the late 2000s there was a push by a lot of businesses to not print emails and people use to add a ‘Please consider this environment before printing this email.’

Considering how bad LLMs/‘ai’ are with power consumption and water usage a new useless tag email footer should be made.

  • i had no car my entire life and have flown 4 times (i like trains lol).

    Ok, something nearly everyone does - washing clothes.

    A 500W washing machine uses this amount of energy in 10.8 seconds during the spin cycle.

    Using a dryer? 4.3 seconds@3000W.

    If we look at the equivalent mechanical energy, lets look at your bike (you gotta eat to offset the energy loss, causing emissions through agriculture and cooking!)

    You can generate a Chatbot response by pedaling ~2 minutes@100W power!

    The chips are already pretty optimized, since they are in principle not different to high-end gaming GPU’s. I have a 3070 TI, and i can generate a complex response locally in under a minute @ 290W TDP, 30-40 seconds if i use something like qwen 2.5, which aligns pretty well with what i’ve said before. Playing a video game uses a lot more power.

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      2 minutes for every query and im 100% not using it and I think these numbers like 2 min of biking aren’t really based on anything. It will help again if the industry makes it a point to track and publish energy usage.