Increasingly, mainstream Democrats have sought to carve out a space for “acceptable” Zionism by saying that they support Israel but oppose Bibi Netanyahu. But the horrors of Gaza are a result of processes far more vast than one right-wing leader.
And before them, it was the Ottomans, and before them it was the Arab islamic conquests and so on and so forth. Colonialism is far from only a western problem.
Palastine has been faught over and handed between major powers for millenia. They have never been allowed to form their own regional state for long enough.
What? You’re not making any sense. Palestine was ruled by these powers, as was the rest of the Middle East, but it was never a center of conflict. Places tend to be ruled by people, that’s how that works.
Palastine has been faught over and handed between major powers for millenia.
Like… every other part of the world? I’m not sure what part of this is unique to Palestine.
They have never been allowed to form their own regional state for long enough.
That’s like saying Berlin was never allowed to form its own regional state for long enough. The desire for a Palestinian state is a very recent phenomenon. Hell, Palestinian identity is a very recent phenomenon created through Zionist oppression; had Britain not reared its ugly head Palestine and Lebanon would’ve been parts of Syria.
You forgot about the Crusades. When the islamists invaded the region and the catholic church counter invaded.
It has very much been one of the conflict hotbeds in the world. Like the Balkans, Armenia, Somalia.
The little secret that the Zionists and Islamists would like to forget, is that there are almost no generic differences between Modern Israelis and Palestinians. They come from the same people, from before the Islamic, Catholic and Zionist conquests.
So when I demonstrate knowledge that does not support your views, your response is to dismiss it?
Are you simply unwilling to engage and provide the necessary information to be convincing, or are you simply falling back on projecting your own ignorance on me?
You have not, in fact, demonstrated any such knowledge, only tells you don’t really understand what you’re talking about. For starters, that’s not what the word “Islamist” means (Islamism refers to the modern political movement), and second there were a full four centuries between the Muslim conquest of Palestine and the first crusade. Four centuries between major conflicts isn’t what I’d call “a conflict hotbed.” Like, seriously just go hit Wikipedia, type “history of Palestine” and see the massive gaps between the conflicts you’re talking about. You also keep bringing up Islamism in completely irrelevant contexts.
Not taking sides here, but here is a great animated history map of the region (although whether the"Kingdom of Israel" existed as a united entity as shown on this map is debated).
And before them, it was the Ottomans, and before them it was the Arab islamic conquests and so on and so forth. Colonialism is far from only a western problem.
Palastine has been faught over and handed between major powers for millenia. They have never been allowed to form their own regional state for long enough.
What? You’re not making any sense. Palestine was ruled by these powers, as was the rest of the Middle East, but it was never a center of conflict. Places tend to be ruled by people, that’s how that works.
Like… every other part of the world? I’m not sure what part of this is unique to Palestine.
That’s like saying Berlin was never allowed to form its own regional state for long enough. The desire for a Palestinian state is a very recent phenomenon. Hell, Palestinian identity is a very recent phenomenon created through Zionist oppression; had Britain not reared its ugly head Palestine and Lebanon would’ve been parts of Syria.
You forgot about the Crusades. When the islamists invaded the region and the catholic church counter invaded.
It has very much been one of the conflict hotbeds in the world. Like the Balkans, Armenia, Somalia.
The little secret that the Zionists and Islamists would like to forget, is that there are almost no generic differences between Modern Israelis and Palestinians. They come from the same people, from before the Islamic, Catholic and Zionist conquests.
Okay I’ll be frank: You lack too much information about Middle Eastern history, politics and culture to be having this conversation.
So when I demonstrate knowledge that does not support your views, your response is to dismiss it?
Are you simply unwilling to engage and provide the necessary information to be convincing, or are you simply falling back on projecting your own ignorance on me?
You have not, in fact, demonstrated any such knowledge, only tells you don’t really understand what you’re talking about. For starters, that’s not what the word “Islamist” means (Islamism refers to the modern political movement), and second there were a full four centuries between the Muslim conquest of Palestine and the first crusade. Four centuries between major conflicts isn’t what I’d call “a conflict hotbed.” Like, seriously just go hit Wikipedia, type “history of Palestine” and see the massive gaps between the conflicts you’re talking about. You also keep bringing up Islamism in completely irrelevant contexts.
Not taking sides here, but here is a great animated history map of the region (although whether the"Kingdom of Israel" existed as a united entity as shown on this map is debated).
Thanks for contributing information.