• tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world
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    folks that voted third party because “my state will be blue”

    Admittedly not all the votes are in, but…

    • Pennsylvania - Trump up by 130k votes, Jill Stein got 33k votes
    • Michigan - Trump up by 84k votes, Jill Stein got 45k votes
    • Wisconsin - Trump up by 28k votes, Jill Stein got 12k votes

    Are all Jill Stein votes from protest voters? Nah, there are diehard Green supporters out there.

    Are there other 3rd party candidates? Of course, but how many RFK (more votes than Stein in WI) voters could she have converted? Almost none.

    This was her blue wall road to victory, show me the electoral path to victory ruined by third party voters who would have otherwise voted Democrat.

    This election was lost by people not showing up to vote. Trump is sitting at almost 72M votes right now compared to 74M in 2020. Harris is only at 67M now, compared to Biden’s 81M in 2020. While there are still votes to count, there aren’t 15M votes left to count.

    Whether it was lack of interest, protest, or whatever reason, 10% of voters stayed home this year.

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      7 hours ago

      A good chunk of biden voters then were shepherded in by Bernie since Biden ended up compromising with Bernie for the transition.

      Imagine if Harris threw a bone to the left. Those are some of the 15 million who stayed home.

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      My election registration got canceled three times this year. The last two times it was because of a “duplicate”, and they were counting my canceled registrations as duplicates. I have no idea if my ballot got counted, or if it was discarded.

      I vote blue in one of those red states…

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        7 hours ago

        Write to the white house and ask them to investigate it as fraud. Because there was shenanigans pulled in red states for that.

        Americans overseas had their ballots challenged in Pennsylvania and there is still a lawsuit over that.

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        20 hours ago

        Similar here actually. I usually try to vote by mail, but by the time I finally got registeration and residency handled after 2 online registrations and two visits to the elections office, early voting was over, so I had to go to the polls on election day

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      20 hours ago

      I blame the Stein voters exactly as much as I blame the people staying at home. And neither as much as the people who voted for Trump.

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      23 hours ago

      “Admittedly not all the votes are in, but…” you’ll pretend to make a point with vote counts anyway.

      I am so fucking sick of all this shit.

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        7 hours ago

        We don’t have 15 million outstanding votes. They said that in their post.

        Unless the dems can pull 15 million votes out of their ass, Trump won.

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        23 hours ago
        • Pennsylvania - 98.3% Reporting
        • Michigan - 98.7% Reporting
        • Wisconsin - 99% Reporting

        These states have been called for Trump. The remaining outstanding vote will not impact this result. The remaining vote is not going to come in all for Jill Stein or other third party candidates. The point that protest votes for third party candidates did not rob Harris of an electoral college victory will stand once 100% of the vote is in.