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I just want an electric version of a Honda fit…
Give me an updated Subaru Baja. Or a other brands that make Utes I see in Australia. Or a Kei truck with actual usable space and a bed that can fit a piece of plywood.
Fuck the automakers that ruined this country.
Seriously, it’s such a good car it just needs an electric version
So like a Chevy bolt or kona ev? Or do you mean specifically honda?
Not an SUV or a crossover. I want a compact car like a Civic or a Corolla. Like a VW e-Golf, or the Ford Focus EV, but that’s as affordable as a standard compact car with a good range.
Hydrogen fuel cells would be a great alternative to electric batteries, and you can refuel in minutes. Or if you’re worried about the hydrogen, how about solid state batteries that allow fast charging to 80% in minutes and are much safer? What’s the hold up? Are they just trying to get rid of their existing battery stock?
I’m in this boat and got a bolt, though I wish it were lower. And that they kept making it.
crew cab
Why can’t you make a cheap EV for people who want to be able to throw a couple sheets of plywood in the back? These tiny beds are borderline useless.
preach. id have been electric years ago if they made a full bed.
Because performative pickups are lifestyle items in North America.
Stealing “performative pickup”
I prefer emotional support vehicle or Gender affirming vehicle.
The people buying these aren’t really using them as a truck. They use them to go get groceries and pick up a coffee. Idiots.
well i like to get a coffee too. after i pick up a few 8x4 sheets of whatever i’m working with this week.
I whole heartedly agree. Maybe it’s like women’s clothes and getting dresses with pockets, so they can sell you the accessories? bed extender
Because it’s not a real truck, it’s unibody construction.
Im uninformed about this. Why cant a truck with a unibody have a bigger bed
you put in a bigger bed and customers will try to load it up and bend the unibody frame. you overload your ladder frame pickup and you might damage the bed or the tires but aren’t likely to render the entire vehicle unsafe.
ladder frame is capable of supporting much more weight than any unibody due to the design that separates load bearing concerns from body concerns.
Because a bed made of, and supported by just sheet metal can’t have the same strength as a bed that is supported by essentially 6” steel girders.
Fuck that, how about $150k city buses? Or $30k delivery vans? Or $20,000 hatchbacks? Half the pickups on the roads seem to be for feels not work.
They are Gender affirming vehicles
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Ha ha, F150 lightning announced at 40k, cheapest model is actually 50k.
Everyday I get sad at the fact the Toyota IMV 0 is not allowed to be sold in the US.
I’d totally rather a company with the supply chain and mature market for parts. Slate truck is hoping to fill the low cost, no frills, extra customizable electric truck segment.
Man, I hope Slate trucks sell like fucking hotcakes. The lack of creepy spyware makes that the only new vehicle I’m considering.
… what? You just said Toyota doesn’t have a proper supply chain or market for parts? You do realize Toyota is literally one of the biggest and most mature car manufacturers and has been for years right?
I’d rather have a Toyota than an off brand alternative.
I think they mean they’d rather have Toyota, but right now there’s only the promise of Slate.
Oh makes way more sense, was like they were literally talking backwards
The Bezos truck? No thanks
If your argument for not liking a company is because of a partial investor being a rich guy, I sure hope you walk everywhere. Else be a hypocrite.
I drive a Toyota
I’ve been looking forward to the Slate truck too, really hoping it’s successful. It would be a perfect upgrade from my 07 Ranger.
This pisses me off too. The its exactly what I want and cant get.
If it has a 65"+ bed, I’m gonna feel stupid having a Lightning. But if it’s another crew cab and it has the footprint of a Maverick, it probably won’t.
Fuck that, we want good public transport! No oversized cars that are a danger to children and adults alike!
Sure, but I still need a vehicle to get to the closest stop and ride. It would be nice to have a truck for my weekend projects when I’m not commuting.
That’s what public transit is for. Stops every 500 m is possible.
Plus, how often do you even transport heavy things with your truck? Most I know only need it once a year – way cheaper and less antisocial to have a smaller car and to use a trailer for those days.
I have snow to plow all winter so it gets used a lot.
Understandable, but for that there are snow blowers. Takes less space and uses less energy as well.
I’d agree if my driveway wasn’t 600ft.
180 m long a driveway? Dang, now that’s rural.
Very!
If you need a vehicle to get to public transit, that’s terrible public transit.
That’s how it is in most of America as well as some areas of Europe and Asia. Also disabled people exist.
FYI, public transit IS inherently more disability friendly. We have level steps, escalators everywhere, and so on. Can’t say that cars are disability friendly when they are the perfect vehicles to create them. Most traffic deaths occur by car - and even per capita, they’re pretty dang deadly.
And most deaths are CAUSED by the car driver being reckless and plowing like a terrorist into pedestrians and bicyclists. Which is why we must make it safe for the latter.
Look at OC. We’re talking good public transit. Why are you scrapping the bottom of the barrel?
In places with good public transit, disabled people have more mobility than with cars, not less.
The person is talking about going to a stop and ride. You can’t just say that’s bad public transit then pretend it’s not an issue when you get called out.
“Pretend is not an issue”? I’m making it the central issue, saying that is bad public transit, and therefore not a solution. That was me calling you out for strawmaning the discussion. Twice. You basically said “you want good public transit and less cars? You can’t have it because bad public transit requires cars.”
Either discuss in good faith or I’m out.
My criticism is concerning those carbrained big vehicles. Look at those Cybertrucks and Jeeps and tell me that that’s not dangerous for pedestrians, bicyclists, children, and all alike. More dangerous for other car drivers as well.
Cars are the problem. That’s the harsh fact.
It also takes like 15 kids in front of the SUV to see any kid. Hell, even with adults you can often not see them… They are very, very dangerous.
Cars demand large parking spots, pollute the environment, aren’t convenient (you constantly need to watch traffic rules, get honked at, have to fuel, have to look for a parking spot, or can get fined…). With a bicycle, this is all much less the case, and with widespread public transit, all of that is gone. Much more convenient and luxurious!
Sure, I’ll admit – if you ignore all of those above, it’s attractive to be able to hop and go everywhere.
But with good public transit and pedestrian & bike infrastructure (as well mixed-use development), a carless life is much nicer. Hell, it’s actually nicer having a car when those things are present. More bicyclists and walking people, denser development - means fewer people on the road - means fewer traffic jams - means driving is nicer.