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I just want an electric version of a Honda fit…
Give me an updated Subaru Baja. Or a other brands that make Utes I see in Australia. Or a Kei truck with actual usable space and a bed that can fit a piece of plywood.
Fuck the automakers that ruined this country.
Seriously, it’s such a good car it just needs an electric version
So like a Chevy bolt or kona ev? Or do you mean specifically honda?
Not an SUV or a crossover. I want a compact car like a Civic or a Corolla. Like a VW e-Golf, or the Ford Focus EV, but that’s as affordable as a standard compact car with a good range.
Hydrogen fuel cells would be a great alternative to electric batteries, and you can refuel in minutes. Or if you’re worried about the hydrogen, how about solid state batteries that allow fast charging to 80% in minutes and are much safer? What’s the hold up? Are they just trying to get rid of their existing battery stock?
Who knows. But hydrogen seems like a step back. Faster charge speeds would be nice, but personally, the charge speeds have not negatively impacted me. The ioniq 5 charges plenty fast for my use cases
Why is hydrogen a step back?
For me personally, the idea of needing to go to a station to fill up at a high cost to run an electric motor seems like added complexity when I can just plug in at home and not bother with that, and save a bunch of money for the convenience.
I’ve had an EV for 6 years and done many road trips. I recently bought a class b camper van which has replaced the car for road trips.
I find that my stops are often longer with the van because I can’t multi-task. With the car, I plug in, take the dog to piss/crap/stretch, and then I go to the bathroom and possibly get something to eat drink.
With the van its all serial and pump gas, walk dog, pee adds up to a 20 to 30 minute stop anyways.
I’m in this boat and got a bolt, though I wish it were lower. And that they kept making it.
crew cab
Why can’t you make a cheap EV for people who want to be able to throw a couple sheets of plywood in the back? These tiny beds are borderline useless.
Yeah but how do other people know that you are a real man if you don’t drive a iseless car?
Because performative pickups are lifestyle items in North America.
Stealing “performative pickup”
The other common term is ‘pavement princess’.
Your 145k luxury heavy duty crewcab truck that spends most of its time sitting on the pavement in your driveway, because gas mileage is terrible, and you’re also terrified of using your truck… as a truck, ie, hauling loads, going a bit offroad or into a construction site… because that could superficially damage your princess.
There are actually a good number of ‘car guys’ who fucking hate these things, and also even advocate for trains/public transit/bike lanes etc. … because they will actually reduce traffic, which will make driving more enjoyable overall, and also lessen the amount of people on the road who cannot afford to maintain their dangerous shitboxes, that are more likely to be in an accident because of their state of disrepair.
I prefer emotional support vehicle or Gender affirming vehicle.
They literally put truck nutz on them.
(I think the original brand name was ‘truck nutz’)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_nuts
You can basically be guaranteed that if you find someone with truck nuts, you have found one of the most insecure men on the planet.
preach. id have been electric years ago if they made a full bed.
The people buying these aren’t really using them as a truck. They use them to go get groceries and pick up a coffee. Idiots.
well i like to get a coffee too. after i pick up a few 8x4 sheets of whatever i’m working with this week.
I whole heartedly agree. Maybe it’s like women’s clothes and getting dresses with pockets, so they can sell you the accessories? bed extender
Because it’s not a real truck, it’s unibody construction.
Im uninformed about this. Why cant a truck with a unibody have a bigger bed
you put in a bigger bed and customers will try to load it up and bend the unibody frame. you overload your ladder frame pickup and you might damage the bed or the tires but aren’t likely to render the entire vehicle unsafe.
ladder frame is capable of supporting much more weight than any unibody due to the design that separates load bearing concerns from body concerns.
Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation
Because a bed made of, and supported by just sheet metal can’t have the same strength as a bed that is supported by essentially 6” steel girders.
Fuck that, how about $150k city buses? Or $30k delivery vans? Or $20,000 hatchbacks? Half the pickups on the roads seem to be for feels not work.
They are Gender affirming vehicles
They even get bottom surgery to add nuts 🤷
Way to woke
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Ha ha, F150 lightning announced at 40k, cheapest model is actually 50k.
Everyday I get sad at the fact the Toyota IMV 0 is not allowed to be sold in the US.
I’d totally rather a company with the supply chain and mature market for parts. Slate truck is hoping to fill the low cost, no frills, extra customizable electric truck segment.
I’m not normally a truck guy but I really want one of these. I just hope the battery upgrade and individual accessories/customizations don’t bump the cost too high. I love how small the truck is
Man, I hope Slate trucks sell like fucking hotcakes. The lack of creepy spyware makes that the only new vehicle I’m considering.
I’ve been looking forward to the Slate truck too, really hoping it’s successful. It would be a perfect upgrade from my 07 Ranger.
The Bezos truck? No thanks
If your argument for not liking a company is because of a partial investor being a rich guy, I sure hope you walk everywhere. Else be a hypocrite.
I drive a Toyota
… what? You just said Toyota doesn’t have a proper supply chain or market for parts? You do realize Toyota is literally one of the biggest and most mature car manufacturers and has been for years right?
I’d rather have a Toyota than an off brand alternative.
I think they mean they’d rather have Toyota, but right now there’s only the promise of Slate.
Oh makes way more sense, was like they were literally talking backwards
This pisses me off too. The its exactly what I want and cant get.
If it has a 65"+ bed, I’m gonna feel stupid having a Lightning. But if it’s another crew cab and it has the footprint of a Maverick, it probably won’t.
Fuck that, we want good public transport! No oversized cars that are a danger to children and adults alike!
Sure, but I still need a vehicle to get to the closest stop and ride. It would be nice to have a truck for my weekend projects when I’m not commuting.
That’s what public transit is for. Stops every 500 m is possible.
Plus, how often do you even transport heavy things with your truck? Most I know only need it once a year – way cheaper and less antisocial to have a smaller car and to use a trailer for those days.
I have snow to plow all winter so it gets used a lot.
Understandable, but for that there are snow blowers. Takes less space and uses less energy as well.
I’d agree if my driveway wasn’t 600ft.
180 m long a driveway? Dang, now that’s rural.
Very!
If you need a vehicle to get to public transit, that’s terrible public transit.
That’s how it is in most of America as well as some areas of Europe and Asia. Also disabled people exist.
FYI, public transit IS inherently more disability friendly. We have level steps, escalators everywhere, and so on. Can’t say that cars are disability friendly when they are the perfect vehicles to create them. Most traffic deaths occur by car - and even per capita, they’re pretty dang deadly.
And most deaths are CAUSED by the car driver being reckless and plowing like a terrorist into pedestrians and bicyclists. Which is why we must make it safe for the latter.
I’m aware. But how is the disabled person going to get there if they don’t live close enough. The conversation was on park and ride.
You’re aware that disability-friendly methods of transport without private cars exist?
Wheelchairs, wheelchair-bikes, hell, even quadriplegic bicycles exist.
And the issue of “not living close enough” can be resolved with public transport being widespread and widely available.
What we should do, is stimulate park & rides with those for disabilities and for bicycle users. Have a few centres where people with disabilities can live, and a bus stop outside of those centres (or close enough for such a park & ride to be feasible) with buses for everyone driving regularly and often for free, and boom, done.
If Switzerland and China can do it, in rural landscapes and on a large scale, then so can the US, self-proclaimed “best country” of the world.
I think frankly that that is much more useful and efficient. It also keeps the people more independent, as they no longer are dependent on expensive and energy-inefficient methods of transport to travel around.
So what about people that live outside the city?
Look at OC. We’re talking good public transit. Why are you scrapping the bottom of the barrel?
In places with good public transit, disabled people have more mobility than with cars, not less.
The person is talking about going to a stop and ride. You can’t just say that’s bad public transit then pretend it’s not an issue when you get called out.
“Pretend is not an issue”? I’m making it the central issue, saying that is bad public transit, and therefore not a solution. That was me calling you out for strawmaning the discussion. Twice. You basically said “you want good public transit and less cars? You can’t have it because bad public transit requires cars.”
Either discuss in good faith or I’m out.
Do you know what a park and ride is? Not everyone lives right next to public transit or is able to walk to it.
Also learn what a strawman is. Considering I never said any of what you claim.
My criticism is concerning those carbrained big vehicles. Look at those Cybertrucks and Jeeps and tell me that that’s not dangerous for pedestrians, bicyclists, children, and all alike. More dangerous for other car drivers as well.
Cars are the problem. That’s the harsh fact.
It also takes like 15 kids in front of the SUV to see any kid. Hell, even with adults you can often not see them… They are very, very dangerous.
Cars demand large parking spots, pollute the environment, aren’t convenient (you constantly need to watch traffic rules, get honked at, have to fuel, have to look for a parking spot, or can get fined…). With a bicycle, this is all much less the case, and with widespread public transit, all of that is gone. Much more convenient and luxurious!
Sure, I’ll admit – if you ignore all of those above, it’s attractive to be able to hop and go everywhere.
But with good public transit and pedestrian & bike infrastructure (as well mixed-use development), a carless life is much nicer. Hell, it’s actually nicer having a car when those things are present. More bicyclists and walking people, denser development - means fewer people on the road - means fewer traffic jams - means driving is nicer.
I feel like you don’t know what a park and ride is.
