• orclev@lemmy.world
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    Because they’re grossly ignorant and still believe the debunked trickle down economics theory that fucking Reagan foisted on us all those years ago. And just like every other time they’ll act shocked when the economy goes even more to shit and find some way to shift blame to literally anyone but the GOP lawmakers that are plundering their wealth.

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    Everyone with a reason or responsibility to inform the public about the economy has not been effective enough.

    • Why are eggs expensive? There has been an ongoing bird flu outbreak for the past four years. Government policy might be able to mitigate the impact some, but the virus does not care who is president.
    • Why is rent expensive? Not enough housing, mostly, with a bit of facilitated collusion thrown in. The president has little to do with the former; if anything, Trump is more likely to tolerate the latter.
    • Why is gas expensive? A president does have a big role here, but it’s Putin, not Biden or Trump. It’s also not up a whole lot from 5-6 years ago.
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      This. I don’t trust the general population to analyze the economy and decide which plan is better for the country.

      It’s like one candidate explaining to toddlers that they need to eat their vegetables for long-term growth, while another one wins because they offer candies today.

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      Our domestic oil production is higher under Biden than Trump and we’re a net exporter. What the fuck else would we do?

      Lina Khan, best FTC chair in a generation, was also in the process of cracking down on algorithmic price fixing for rentals and other deceptive practices.

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    If you want real answers lets unpack why the Democrats messaging was to insist the economy is doing well when people have stagnant wages and have to spend more of their income by percent on food and housing. Everyone I know who makes about the same as me is completely unsurprised by this election, but the ones well off enough to believe the party line on the economy are completly shocked. This is the disconnect the dems need to address.

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      I don’t get it though. “My wages are shit, so I’ll vote for the hyper capitalist oligarchs who will make sure my wages stay shit”.

      Punching oneself in the face is not the cure for a bloody nose.

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        Trump didn’t gain voters, Democrats lost voters. The people didnt see Kamalas message and switch to Trump, they saw her message and stayed home.

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        Americans have no concept of class or class struggle.

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        I think the idea is “he promises change, when she says there’s nothing to change”. He’s lying of course, but they hear him talking about an issue (without offering any reasonable solution) and threw their support behind him.

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          They didn’t throw their support behind him. He got the same number of votes as he got the last two times. The difference is Democrats didn’t turn out.

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        If their wages are shit, do they want more of the same or any change at all? Seems pretty obvious to me why they voted that way, especially given they don’t understand economics.

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          I feel like Harris didn’t even need to explicitly say she would fix the economy or change everything as much as she just needed to come out and say shes aware the economy is not working for everyone. When voters who feel economically dejecected see someone say nothing is wrong, they get the feeling no one is going to help them. A little acknowledgement would have been great.

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        The problem, basically, is that people don’t really have any clear sense of how political decisions actually affect things like wages and cost of living, but they have a very strong sense that political decisions must be having some effect on those things.

        So when presented with the choice between “The situation we have” (which definitely sucks), and “something else” (which might suck) they opt for “something else”.

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    On the one hand, our country is essentially doomed and we’re about to death spiral.

    On the other, If Trump does even a little of what he wants those of us evolved enough to be considered human will be able to have a really good “i told you so” moment.

    I don’t think it’s worth it.

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    I think it should be mandatory for voters to have knowledge of economics, so that we do not fall into stupidities.

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      Thats supposed to be part of public education, which is why the party of dumb people keeps gutting it. We have the system in place, its just intentionally broken.

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        I spent my econ class learning about how tourism is good for the economies of resort towns, and watching travel shows about those resort towns :)

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          During a visit to a clients family home, I heard his younger sisters bashing their homework assignment because the teacher wanted them to give positive arguments for dropping the nukes on Japan in addition to arguments for not dropping them. I knew I got taught propaganda long ago when I was there but damn that caught me off guard.

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            I’m assuming this is in the context of WWII? How is it propaganda? This sounds like a decent assignment not to try to morally justify the dropping of atomic bombs, but to build (and possibly dismiss) the arguments use for doing so. It can be a long walk, but there were massive geopolitical implication for both for and against at the time. Again, it isn’t a moral argument but an education that there are, for better or worse, people in the world that held both views.

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            I once wrote an essay about how dropping two nukes was excessive, but one was maybe okay :)

            Real talk, these are the things I was taught in those young impressionable years. It’s fucked up. And I’ll bet plenty of my old classmates are still fucked up.

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      Yep, a standardized test every decade would be nice, but that will never happen. They are under a dicatorship now

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    Telling us we were not struggling and everything is fine when we can see that’s a lie didn’t help.