cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/46449191
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday Ukraine should agree a deal to end the war with Russia because “Russia is a very big power, and they’re not”
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/46449191
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday Ukraine should agree a deal to end the war with Russia because “Russia is a very big power, and they’re not”
Oh yeah, just give them the land they want. Just like Taiwan and China. Just give them the land they want. Or with Russia and Alaska, just give them the land they want. You sound incredibly stupid.
This works before the war. At this stage, it is moronic to think Ukraine is going to get a better deal than Russia.
What deal? There is no fucking deal? I’ve dealt with stupidity before but goddamn you’re taking the cake.
A peace deal?
That’s not a peace deal. That’s extortion and signing up for genocide.
People are already dying ffs. Stop the deaths that are happening right now than fearing for potential genocide. I don’t even think Putin wants a genocide, he just wants land.
Edit - It is extortion 100% but what is the alternative?
And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. The West isn’t doing anything. Ukraine is the one who was invaded by Russia, and Ukraine is the one who will continue fighting until Russia is out. It was a matter of time before you started regurgitating Russian propaganda.
I don’t agree with npdean, but isn’t that a bit of a stretch?
What propaganda?
There are several problems with making a deal like that.
The primary one is that they already had a deal with Russia and Russia broke it in 2014 and then again in 2022. So why would anyone believe that another deal would stick? They’d just take time to regroup and be back a few years later.
Another is that making a deal where Russia keeps the land that they have control over isn’t a deal, it’s letting Russia keep what they stole. What would Ukraine get from this deal (other than the end to the war as you pointed out)? That’s like making a deal with a burglar saying that they can keep what they stole as long as they get out of the house.
Agreed, it is not wise to just give up land. It has to be accompanied by solid security measures and guarantees. As I said in another comment, there has to be a diplomatic solution after a ceasefire.
So can Ukraine. Ukraine can also make use of the time.
Yes, because he has a gun to my head. I will gladly let them take my whole house if that happened.
This guy would let his family get raped and killed to save his own skin.
Let me guess, your favorite line is “You should just lay back and accept it.”