A German court has ruled that a Nazi concentration camp memorial has the right to refuse entry to those wearing the Palestinian keffiyeh scarf.
The higher administrative court in the eastern state of Thuringia on Wednesday rejected a request from a woman to be allowed entry to the Buchenwald concentration camp memorial while wearing a keffiyeh.
“It is unquestionable that this would endanger the sense of security of many Jews, especially at this site,” the court said.
Regardless of anything else you might think, you just have to admit that this rationale is bullshit:
“It is unquestionable that this would endanger the sense of security of many Jews, especially at this site,” the court said.
It is not unquestionable that wearing a keffiyeh would endanger anyone’s sense of security.
Argue about anything else, but you cannot actually defend that “it is unquestionable”.
Ah yes - in a memorial remembering genocide, let’s prohibit symbols of protest against a current genocide
Puts on the genocidology hat
“You see they are not killing using organized industrial means, so it can’t be a genocide. If the killing is done by randomly shooting and bombing civilians it’s just a sparkling massacre”
Guilt is one hell of a drug
One hell of excuse to support a new genocide
Guilt has no factor in this. Only shamelessness and German white supremacy.
I’m really confused by this comment.
So the guilt part comes in the idea that because Germans perpetuated the worst historical genocide against the Jewish people, they therefore will now bend over backwards to support the Jewish people.
This has similarities with “white guilt” elsewhere, such as in the US with black and native populations. It’s usually used as a smear against white activists in favor of BLM, or against the Dakota Access pipeline, or other such cases.
There are alternative explanations that aren’t so adjacent to the arguments people are using to derail valid protest movements.
“Germany supports genocide because they feel guilty about doing genocide”
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Nobody supporting Israel has any guilt towards the Holocaust. This is the most contradictory statement one can make.
Germany supports white people ethnically cleansing the Middle East of brown people. For more context https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH03uLuOtSY
Another action that will increase antisemitism
Victim blaming?
The victim here is the palestinians who sympatise with jews who was murdered by nazis thst will be banned for wearing a palestinian scarf and the normsl jews who will experience more antisemite because of rediculous ruling like those
The activist that went to court over this is part of a communist organization that calls October 7th “morally legitimate” and “politically reasonable”.
Funny that you use “communist” as an accusation in the context of Buchenwald:
From 1937 to 1945, the Nazis imprisoned hundreds of thousands of people here in the Buchenwald concentration camp, including political opponents, communists, homosexuals, foreign prisoners, Jews, Roma and Sinti, Jehovah’s Witnesses and undesired clergy. (source)
Based on this list, communists get exactly as much right to the space as all the other groups.
It wasn’t an accusation but simply a fact.
It’s “funny” how that’s the thing you care about and not the actual point of my comment, that those people - communists or not - praise the massacre of October 7th. I feel like their “right” to the place expires by that.I was poking you specifically on the “Communist” part because I saw you bring it up elsewhere in the conversation. I don’t adopt this organization’s political analysis of the October 7th attacks.
Now, let’s talk about the “right” to the place. The Nazis murdered homosexuals in Buchenwald. Does a member of a homophobic Jewish organization get the right to visit with symbols of their organization?
Germans and smearing communists while Germany supports genocide. Name a better combo.
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Oh nice, saying I should kill myself.
Because god forbid Jews get offended by what someone Israel is genociding wears
No one plays the victim better than the Israelis
Well, a close second are Scousers and Hillsborough
Way to be completely right and then completely wrong in the next sentence 🤦
Kinda weird to go to court over that. How about you respect the decision of the memorial in the first place.
How about you let people wear whatever pattern of scarf they want instead.
It’s not about a scarf pattern. The person suing the memorial had repeatedly tried to use the memorial site for their orthodox communist propaganda and already got banned from it for that. To sue the memorial now is just another escalation and intentionally making it look like the bad Germans are banning Palestinians.
The director of the memorial personally said, that people wearing a Kufiyeh are not generally banned, but can be banned because of it. The headline/article is just misleading and sensationalism.The person suing the memorial had repeatedly tried to use the memorial site for their orthodox communist propaganda and already got banned from it for that.
Where did you get this info? The article mention none of that
The director of the memorial personally said, that people wearing a Kufiyeh are not generally banned, but can be banned because of it. The headline/article is just misleading and sensationalism.
Nice excuse from him after the internal document was leaked Israel lover using the same tactic when they got exposed
intentionally making it look like the bad Germans are banning Palestinians
Nobody is claiming Germans are all bad and support Israeli terrorism just the government
Translate it yourself.
https://kommunistische-organisation.de/stellungnahmen/kufiya-hat-in-buchenwald-hausverbot/The organization is notorious for being dogmatic, authoritarian communists that in the past praised the Hamas as legitimate “resistance” and interrupted events at the Buchenwald memorial.
https://x.com/leonmwalter/status/1513154520028692493There is zero proof that the woman who was blocked from entering the memorial had any connection to the organization . Seem like the organization you mentioned used that event to spread their antisemitism. The memorial employers also help their case by associating kufiyah as antisemitism and trying to conflate antizionism with antisemitism. The kufiyah was never an anti jew slogan it’s a symbol of the inherit right of any group of people to living freely. It is even recognized by UNESCO
I should also remember you that in Buchenwald concentration that 11000 jews was massacred but also 45000 non jew . So who those memorial staffs are to say the Palestinians getting genocide and people who oppose this genocide to use this memorial as an occasion to say massacres and genocides should never happen again no matter who is the victim This is an humanitarian and moral statement not a political one
I also wonder why no organization associated with settlers terrorists in the west bank oppressing Palestinians are in Germany terrorist list
The decision of the genocide memorial to support genocide?
Who said the memorial is supporting genocide? Are you nuts?
The people who run the memorial and the German government.
Wild assumption. Supporting the state of Israel does not equal supporting a genocide.
