• kamen@lemmy.world
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    I’m from some country in the EU. We have a saying, half joke, half serious: You aren’t truly successful living abroad if you have to come home to fix your teeth. I guess it holds some truth.

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    Give up sugar. That will make a HUGE difference. The sooner you do it, the better for your overall health, including your teeth.

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    And dental insurance SUCKS.

    I had a dental plan at an old job that was 24 dollars a pay period, and the annual coverage limit was $500.

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      I have “good” dental coverage that claims to pay a decent percentage of costs, but it’s of “reasonable and customary costs”. We live in a high cost of living state and it’s just not reasonable. They never seem to include the bus ticket to Mississippi to find someone willing to do it that cheaply.

      …… as a parent paying for yet another set of braces where insurance covers “up to 50% of reasonable costs” or more realistically about 20%

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      It’s always been so insulting. When you’re a kid and a teenager you can have the government’s insurance and then your parent’s insurance. But as soon as you are an adult that starts working minimum wage without any social advantages, you have to pay for the expensive dentist out of pocket. So lots of young people that are relatively poor will pass the beginning of their adult life without dental insurance, and avoid going there.

      And if they’re lucky and evolve into the job market, they can eventually find an employer that offers dental insurance! With any luck they won’t spend more than a few years without insurance. Otherwise if they stay at minimum wage, they can also keep paying out of pocket, because it’s certainly not their retail job that will offer dental insurance.

      No, I’m still not bitter at all about this experience. /s

      At least this supposed to change eventually, thanks to the NDP.

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        I was lucky when I was cooking at a bar that the surfer/painter dentist down the road would let you pay in payments. Everyone at the bar went to him. He did good work too.

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        Yes, I know. We have dental coverage from my husbands work, luckily, as we would make just a bit too much combined to be able to take advantage of it.

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      The moment robotic and/or 3D flesh printed limbs get viable, sewing back your clean cut limbs will be a luxury too, with “economic” options of fake limbs that can be put on the stump, since “you can always just ask your boss very nicely to give you a call center job instead”.

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    I think this is also worldwide

    In Italy healthcare is Free but dental isn’t included.

    In my city there’s a free service for dental emergencies but it’s open from 8 am to 8.30 am so that means if you didn’t camp outside the door at 3 am it’s already full

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      Hungary used to be just like that, but it lead to people dying of complications, so it had to be undone, but not for replacing teeth, because that will surely lead to children eating sweets instead of fruits, and of course adults won’t buy Brandname™ electric toothbrush and toothpaste (it lead to people in general avoiding dentists like the plague due to “fear of having your teeth pulled with no way of replacing them”).

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        LOL when I noticed the time range I had the feeling like “we’re contractually obligated to offer that service but we don’t actually want that”

        How many people can be done in 30 minutes? Only extractions without anesthesia maybe? 🤔

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          i imagine they line them up and run down the line with some kind of swiss army knife of unsanitized dental tools.

          yeah this is fucked.

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    Are there deadly dental consequences from ignoring tooth issues that don’t first involve lots of pain? Asking for a friend.

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    Girlfriend and I just paid about $10k to fly out to Costa Rica to get her a full set of crowns. Easily would’ve been $40k to do it in the States. Another good looking option was to drive to Mexico.

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      I am planning a move to San Antonio, and the biggest determining factor for me has been proximity to Mexican dentists. I have fucked teeth. My bottom wisdom teeth came in laying down like battering rams and crushed the back 4 teeth on both sides, completely destroyed them. I had no dental insurance and no ability to pay out of pocket, so I just had to deal with the pain. My mom managed to find a dentist to prescribe me Vicodin while it was happening, but that was the extent of what we could get done. Since then, I’ve had several abscesses because of it, and had to have several removed. I still need a few removed and implants or something. I brush my fucking teeth, I don’t understand what the problems are. But I’ll be happy to be near to cheaper dentists.

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        The type of food you eat can determine your mouth’s bacteria biome, which none of us had any fucking way of knowing, other than pure chance.

        Streptococcus Mutans trives on refined sugars that are available to us in modern times. They create a biofilm around your teeth that traps the bacteria itself, along with it’s acid byproducts.

        They eventually wear down your enamel, and other bacteria start feeding on the softer dentin within. The acidic environment kills off the original Streptococcus Mutans bacteria.

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          Isn’t that why we brush our teeth, though? Like… What am I doing wrong? At this point I wish I could convince a dentist to pull all of my teeth, including the healthy ones, and give me dentures. I’m 34, and I don’t smile, I don’t eat out with friends, I don’t do anything that may show my teeth, because I’m missing a front tooth and I look like some cartoon hillbilly. I hate it so much.

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    I had a wisdom tooth go fucky on me. ‘Impacted’ - thing was fucking sideways, and rotted out. A nightmare, couldn’t chew on my right side at all. Was lucky enough to be living in a blue state that offered dental for Poors™ when it happened - they were willing to cover an impacted tooth at the local hospital. They jabbed the world’s biggest needle into my jaw, and yanked it out. Didn’t feel a thing at the time (other than the needle, which was like getting jabbed in the bone), though I spent the next month in agony once the anesthesia wore off.

    They wouldn’t let me take it with me after they extracted it, said it was a ‘biohazard’. Wish I’d pocketed it anyway when they weren’t looking.

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    I’m literally looking forward to having 8 teeth pulled this month because A. at least the pain will go away B. They’re putting me under general because the several extractions I’ve had before this traumatized the shit out of me.

    I could also share the story of paying $800 for a root canal and temp crown then losing my job before getting the perm crown. The remainder of that tooth was extracted a year later for $350.

    Paying $1150 to lose a tooth radicalized the fuck out of me.

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      Recovery from General is kind of rough but I think it’s the only thing that my insurance would cover too. I had all the work in my mouth done at once under general for 8 hours. The follow-up 4 hour procedure was done under IV sedation where they give you fentanyl.

      That stuff is a miracle. It feels easy on the body, like I woke up and could semi function after a couple hours instead of two or three days later from the GA. I didn’t feel or remember anything. And while I was nervous because in my previous experience I really like opioids, there is no lingering wish to go to the dentist for more really expensive drugs. Heck, I don’t remember any of it.

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      Not a doctor, but I guess it depends on the case, the anaesthetic used and so on. As a kid I had to have a primary molar pulled out and it hurt like hell with local anaesthetic. Recently I had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled out and I didn’t feel a thing during the procedure (also with just local anaesthetic) - it only hurt for a few days afterwards while the wounds were healing.

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        My red-headed mother passed down the gene mutation (melanocortin- 1 receptor) that causes resistance to lidocaine and other local anesthesia. Made for some rough dentist/ortho visits as a child. The pain afterwards is pretty negligible but when the lidocaine wears off mid-extraction it’s fucking rough.

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          Didn’t know that; interesting to learn. Hope it hasn’t caused too much problems.

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      When my tooth started rot, the pain was so severe that I tried to pull it out with my hand. Now I am eating only on left side of my mouth. Hope left teeth won’t die…

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        Been there done that. Was pulling rotted roots from a broken tooth the other week…had my surgery set but my x-rays were 6 months old, shit had deteriorated and surgeon agreed with me that a new exam was warranted. That meant the surgery was delayed and I get to deal with the pain for longer and likely get more pulled.

        I legitimately want them to pull everything. I’d rather deal with full dentures until I can afford implants. My teeth have always been sensitive and I will absolutely fuck my tongue up probing at partial denture wires.

        Just today I had two new chunks fall out. The first time I bit down on a chunk of tooth scarred me, but the day I realized I was used to it broke me a bit.

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        You should look at a local university dental school as an option. They’ll often do emergency dental care without payment up front and super affordable.

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      Dental health is the one medical speciality where access to healthcare in Europe is almost as bad as the US.

      On paper, most European countries include it in the universal health, but in practice it either only covers doing the bare minimum on life threatening conditions or there’s only one dentist in the public healthcare system per million people.

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        I mean in Poland it’s not cheap, but it’s not that expensive either, unless for very poor people (or people with bad spending habits) who don’t have any money left before next paycheck.

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        What? According to your comments that would mean that for example Austria has only eight dentists in the public health care system? That’s just not true.

        Of course, no matter how good a system is, we can always try to improve it, like including more services, but it’s of course a balance.

        There is a simple way that would improve health care in practically all countries: Make private health care illegal, not from one day to the next, but gradually. The only way to improve health care would then be to improve health care for everybody.

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          Hyperbole (/haɪˈpɜːrbəli/ ⓘ; adj. hyperbolic /ˌhaɪpərˈbɒlɪk/ ⓘ) is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. In rhetoric, it is also sometimes known as auxesis (literally ‘growth’). In poetry and oratory, it emphasizes, evokes strong feelings, and creates strong impressions. As a figure of speech, it is usually not meant to be taken literally.

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        They won’t install veneers, but pretty much anywhere they’ll pull your tooth if you’re getting an infection, at least you’ll be spared that issue.