Hah. That is a shockingly… optimistic? take in a world where even Twitter didn’t crash and burn. I would ask how resilient that level of delusion is to observable reality, but refer to my earlier comments about social media and squishy brains.
you’re just a incredibly dense individual. No worries though twitter will continue to hemorrhage its user base as its slide into irrelevance continues.
That’s… entirely delusional. Every stat I can find shows Twitter running pretty much flat since the whole mess started. It’s an order of magnitude larger than Bluesky (which itself seems to be down 15-25% this year) and two orders of magnitude larger than Masto, which is also flat YoY.
There is zero indication that Twitter is declining further and certainly if it is at all those users aren’t going to Fedi, BS or any other federated networks. Even if you believe that most of it is bots now it’s still bigger even discounting that, by most estimations, and it’s not shedding either users or bots towards decentralized networks.
At some point wishful thinking stops being optimism, you know?
How is it a dreamscape? I don’t like it. I don’t want it to be that way. It’s just… what reality seems to be based on every piece of information we can get from it. Time is moving things in the opposite direction you’re hoping for.
Your dreamscape is thinking numbers you have no way of verifying in any way tell a story.
The fact is the damage to twitter has been done socially and its on its way out. It’ll take time for people to find their new home and move over but its occurring and will continue to accelerate as time goes on.
I mean… yeah, I do have ways to verify them. For one thing I can get more than one source, which I did. For another this is not data pulled out of thin air, there are multiple proxies for web traffic. It’s not like we’ve built a entire worldwide economy of advertising and attention without any tools to get at least some notion of how may people are putting that attention where.
Is the Twitter brand damaged? Certainly. I wouldn’t touch it with a very long stick, myself.
So is Meta and Google and Apple. And yet, for as much as we are all aware that Meta actively participated in genocide and spied most of the planet illegally you know how their social media performs? Facebook is up to 3 billion users, Whatsapp is the default form of communications of big chunks of the planet, their social brands dominate social networking worldwide.
So hey, if you have some semblance of a timeline for when this social damage does anything practical I would appreciate a hint, because from down here in the real world it’s not looking particularly likely any time soon.
See, you don’t get to forecast the downfall of your political rivals on a limitless timeline. I am in agreement that Elon Musk will die sometime before the sun expands and engulfs the inner planets of the solar system, but that’s not much of a realistic prediction of Twitter’s performance in practical terms.
Hah. That is a shockingly… optimistic? take in a world where even Twitter didn’t crash and burn. I would ask how resilient that level of delusion is to observable reality, but refer to my earlier comments about social media and squishy brains.
Whatever you say champ.
I mean, it’s not, though. Things either happen or they don’t. You made a prediction that does not match reality.
you’re just a incredibly dense individual. No worries though twitter will continue to hemorrhage its user base as its slide into irrelevance continues.
That’s… entirely delusional. Every stat I can find shows Twitter running pretty much flat since the whole mess started. It’s an order of magnitude larger than Bluesky (which itself seems to be down 15-25% this year) and two orders of magnitude larger than Masto, which is also flat YoY.
There is zero indication that Twitter is declining further and certainly if it is at all those users aren’t going to Fedi, BS or any other federated networks. Even if you believe that most of it is bots now it’s still bigger even discounting that, by most estimations, and it’s not shedding either users or bots towards decentralized networks.
At some point wishful thinking stops being optimism, you know?
Shrug keep living in your dream scape. I dont have to convince you time will take care of it eventually.
How is it a dreamscape? I don’t like it. I don’t want it to be that way. It’s just… what reality seems to be based on every piece of information we can get from it. Time is moving things in the opposite direction you’re hoping for.
Your dreamscape is thinking numbers you have no way of verifying in any way tell a story.
The fact is the damage to twitter has been done socially and its on its way out. It’ll take time for people to find their new home and move over but its occurring and will continue to accelerate as time goes on.
I mean… yeah, I do have ways to verify them. For one thing I can get more than one source, which I did. For another this is not data pulled out of thin air, there are multiple proxies for web traffic. It’s not like we’ve built a entire worldwide economy of advertising and attention without any tools to get at least some notion of how may people are putting that attention where.
Is the Twitter brand damaged? Certainly. I wouldn’t touch it with a very long stick, myself.
So is Meta and Google and Apple. And yet, for as much as we are all aware that Meta actively participated in genocide and spied most of the planet illegally you know how their social media performs? Facebook is up to 3 billion users, Whatsapp is the default form of communications of big chunks of the planet, their social brands dominate social networking worldwide.
So hey, if you have some semblance of a timeline for when this social damage does anything practical I would appreciate a hint, because from down here in the real world it’s not looking particularly likely any time soon.
See, you don’t get to forecast the downfall of your political rivals on a limitless timeline. I am in agreement that Elon Musk will die sometime before the sun expands and engulfs the inner planets of the solar system, but that’s not much of a realistic prediction of Twitter’s performance in practical terms.