It works in France because there’s an implication that you guys will start burning everything to the ground if the government doesn’t capitulate. The implication comes from a clear and demonstrated history of actually doing so.
Our history of that is much less clear, especially in recent history.
this is bullshit. it might work in france where you have better educated people and a government that isn’t completely broken. But here, in ths US where the courts and every branch of government is stacked against the people, these weak fisted protests do absolutely nothing aside from satiate an angry populace whose energy would be much better spent doing something else. the idea that these protests will ever fucking work in this country is a goddamn myth.
I don’t know about the Vietnam war protests, but the Civil Rights Movement was a lot more militant than do-nothing liberals would want you to believe. Look up the Black Panthers and people like Malcolm X, and even the peaceful side included real civil disobedience and obstruction. There’s no equivalence between what Americans are doing now and what MLK and crew did.
The Black Panthers weren’t even formed until the greatest victories of the Civil Rights Movement had already been won, and for all of Malcolm X’s rhetoric before leaving the Nation of Islam, the threat of violence from Black Nationalists was not a core factor to the victories of the Civil Rights Movement.
MLK Jr. spent nearly a decade and a half building organizations and connections for nationwide resistance.
We remember this shit. The problem is that the US was a different country back then. Look at Nixon, he did far less than trump and had to leave the presidency. Trump isn’t going anywhere, no matter how much bad shit he does. This country has changed for the worse. Those checks and balances which enabled those past movement to be successful are gone. They are completely utterly destroyed. History is one thing, but you have to look at the present as well, because right now the history is blinding you and the people in my country from doing things that might actually work.
It does, eventually. Else we frenchies would have stopped doing it a long time ago :)
Compare any recent French protests to the parades going on in America right now. They’re two completely different things.
It works in France because there’s an implication that you guys will start burning everything to the ground if the government doesn’t capitulate. The implication comes from a clear and demonstrated history of actually doing so.
Our history of that is much less clear, especially in recent history.
No, it works because we actually burn shit to the ground when the government doesn’t capitulate. And that’s not an ability only french genes have.
It’s up to you to make sure your protests have an effect.
this is bullshit. it might work in france where you have better educated people and a government that isn’t completely broken. But here, in ths US where the courts and every branch of government is stacked against the people, these weak fisted protests do absolutely nothing aside from satiate an angry populace whose energy would be much better spent doing something else. the idea that these protests will ever fucking work in this country is a goddamn myth.
Wrong. Just look at your own history…
To only quote the ones off the top of my head. I’d expect an American to remember these better than me.
I don’t know about the Vietnam war protests, but the Civil Rights Movement was a lot more militant than do-nothing liberals would want you to believe. Look up the Black Panthers and people like Malcolm X, and even the peaceful side included real civil disobedience and obstruction. There’s no equivalence between what Americans are doing now and what MLK and crew did.
The Black Panthers weren’t even formed until the greatest victories of the Civil Rights Movement had already been won, and for all of Malcolm X’s rhetoric before leaving the Nation of Islam, the threat of violence from Black Nationalists was not a core factor to the victories of the Civil Rights Movement.
MLK Jr. spent nearly a decade and a half building organizations and connections for nationwide resistance.
American education in a nutshell lol (which is part of the systemic problem, and by design)
Yep. Lack of education and pacifying Americans by making them believe that stuff like protests and unions are against their interests. Sad.
We remember this shit. The problem is that the US was a different country back then. Look at Nixon, he did far less than trump and had to leave the presidency. Trump isn’t going anywhere, no matter how much bad shit he does. This country has changed for the worse. Those checks and balances which enabled those past movement to be successful are gone. They are completely utterly destroyed. History is one thing, but you have to look at the present as well, because right now the history is blinding you and the people in my country from doing things that might actually work.
It won’t work in the US
It works anywhere people in power can be inconvenienced. The US is no different.
Don’t hold your breath.