• LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    They are paid off by Russia to do this. This isn’t per se religion, this is sophisticated modern digital warfare. That’s why he got so wealthy and is so deep in crypto - crypto is the perfect way to transfer money discretely between countries.

    Like look at Sapolsky or Chomsky or other intellectuals who actually do and say things that contribute to collective knowledge for decades - they don’t have millions of dollars. They say factual stuff, Charlie et al said lies - so how did he get money? He isn’t even the first to say those specific lies, plenty of Christian bigots have existed. So why was he so big? Russia and foreign governments literally propped him up to be a weapon against our country. He killed a lot of people.

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          “The Department’s seizure of 32 internet domains secretly deployed to spread foreign malign influence demonstrates once again that Russia remains a predominant foreign threat to our elections,” said Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco. “At Putin’s direction, Russian companies SDA, Structura, and ANO Dialog used cybersquatting, fabricated influencers, and fake profiles to covertly promote AI-generated false narratives on social media. Those narratives targeted specific American demographics and regions in a calculated effort to subvert our election. Our republic depends on elections that are free from foreign interference, and we will not rest in our efforts to expose foreign malign influence operations and protect our democracy, without fear or favor.”

          The propaganda did not identify, and in fact purposefully obfuscated, the Russian government or its agents as the source of the content. The perpetrators extensively utilized “cybersquatted” domains, a method of registering a domain intended to mimic another person or company’s website (e.g., registering washingtonpost.pm to mimic washingtonpost.com), to publish Russian government messaging falsely presented as content from legitimate news media organizations. In other instances, the perpetrators sought to create their own unique media brands to promote Doppelganger content (e.g., Recent Reliable News). Among the methods Doppelganger used to drive viewership to the cybersquatted and unique media domains was the deployment of “influencers” worldwide, paid social media advertisements (in some cases created using artificial intelligence tools), and the creation of social media profiles posing as U.S. (or other non-Russian) citizens to post comments on social media platforms with links to the cybersquatted domains, all of which attempted to trick viewers into believing they were being directed to a legitimate news media outlet’s website.

          As far as I can tell this has diddly squat to do with Kirk? He’s been around long enough that I’m gonna need you to clear a pretty high bar of evidence to call him an entirely Russian fabrication (in fact this would suggest that he is entirely AI generated).

          Another thing, why would you absolve American media organizations of their interests in a guy like Kirk? Like you said, our media has parroted the types of things that Kirk did since long before the internet age, but there’s a good number of folks like him in the modern day. Are you saying they are all built from the ground up by russian crypto? Are we ignoring the interests of American corporations, billionaires, religious zealots, and their related super PACs in election meddling and dark money?

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      As long as it’s not your country’s responsibility! Good thing you have a general purpose bogeyman.

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        Theres plenty of evidence that Russia has been paying right wing influencers to spread misinformation. Its not a fucking bogeyman, this is reality.

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          Oooohhh and pray tell, how can you know which molecule of a tornado toppled over THAT house in particular?

          It’s a bogeyman, the same way Russia hysteria has been for Americans since the 1950s. You are being manipulated, that’s true, but look closer to home.

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            If you think Russia isn’t involved in the destabilization of America, something that has been shown again and again for at LEAST the last decade or so, I’ve got a nice bridge to sell you mate.

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              LOL please explain how. What’s the mechanism? I mean besides your confirmation bias. Show me how. Brain rays? What are you even talking about?

              You think your all powerful amazing empire can be destabilized (as if stability is somehow owed to you? Despite all the other empires in history that have fallen without Russia?) by what? Five gifs? A weak and disorganized country of drunks that is also somehow the greatest threat in the Big Bang?

              Is anything in your country your responsibility?

              This “Russia Russia Russia” stuff is like a child caught in a lie and pointing at his sibling saying “it was HIIIIM!”

              Grow up. None of these brainworm ideas are the cause of your “destabilization”. In any case, propaganda works both ways, and you can find just as much of it, as you say, for LEAST the last decade, or 5 or 6.

              Yet somehow you were able to launch Apollo 11 during the peak of the Cold War Soviet Union, when the brain rays were stong.

              Yet NOW you’re uniquely destabilized.

              Brain. Worms.