Well it seemed like this was becoming an actual conversation where you responded to what I was saying instead of whatever you are reading into things. This is about as much as I feel like dealing with in the way of rudeness right now, so have a good one.
So we all voted Kamala, and we all think the Dems are fucking up again and we can’t let the literal fucking fascists win.
What are we arguing about again? Is it simply “Dems, with notable or temporary exception are not doing enough and they need to”?
If we’re all on board with the duty to vote and barring some miracle third party candidate we’ll be voting Dem, I think we could get more substantive criticism out there.
I guess when I see “Dems suck” or “don’t blame the voters” I think its an argument against voting which we saw a lot of, or “Harris was terrible” which I (very surprisingly) disagree with.
No one seems to be interested in asking what I’d want to see to vote for them, only that I’m wrong for the vote that I might or might not cast in 3.5 years time, which I find very interesting on an intellectual level.
I dunno, I think “what you want to see” is implied of course. Like, if trump changed to Democrat and “somehow” won the primaries, i don’t think anyone would expect you to vote for that fucker. Or, shit, Bob Menendez or some garbage like that. I don’t know what the DNC thinks their plan is, but they went with two women bookending Biden and neither won against the literal worst person ever to run. So, I think they’re probably busy wondering if they’ll be in the jobs to make campaign decisions.
But then I don’t think Harris was bad at all. I think the worst thing we can say (outside of the support for Israel, which - is a whole other thing) is that she was more unknown than known. I didn’t think she’d have any momentum at all and was pleasantly surprised to find she had a lot. Clearly intelligent, able to manage at that level, and checked most all of the position boxes I wanted in terms of progress in education, finance, climate, regulation, etc.
Is what you want somehow significantly different from what Harris was? And fwiw I think there’s just a huge amount of frustration with the people who spent months on here grandstanding that they were never going to vote, that they were going to make Democrats “pay” for not specifically listing their particular unicorn in every stump speech and like that. People who should have known better and were either too young to know or too ignorant. Or trolling. Or literal disinformation farmers. Of course almost all of them magically disappeared when they got what they wanted.
I’m sorry that clearly fucking stating my issues and outlining the logic that leads to the invariable conclusion is ‘reading into things’, and I’m sorry that being fucking pissed that, even after it’s been pointed out numerous times, that you’re treating the lives of marginalized groups in the US, including my fucking life, as a ‘prize’ that needs to be ‘won’ by the Blue fucking Circus before your holy hand will deign to vote against our murder on your fucking ballot. I understand that my tone is making you uncomfortable, when you would prefer asspats for endorsing my death. Agree to disagree, right? It’s nothing major. Just another game to play and then go home safe and snug every night.
I don’t have a plan yet. No one seems to be interested in asking what I’d want to see to vote for them, only that I’m wrong for the vote that I might or might not cast in 3.5 years time, which I find very interesting on an intellectual level.
It’s almost like I’m expected to uncritically serve up my vote to them for not being the other party.
I don’t have a plan yet. No one seems to be interested in asking what I’d want to see to vote for them, only that I’m wrong for the vote that I might or might not cast in 3.5 years time, which I find very interesting on an intellectual level.
It’s almost like I’m expected to uncritically serve up my vote to them for not being the other party.
It’s almost like the other party are literal fucking fascists who are intent on murdering people, yet you think that the lives of the murdered is ‘not enough’ entertainment for you to oppose literal fucking fascism.
“I MIGHT vote against the Nazis, I don’t know yet! It depends on how entertaining the SDP is!”
And then you wonder why potential Aktion T4 victims spit in your food.
Well it seemed like this was becoming an actual conversation where you responded to what I was saying instead of whatever you are reading into things. This is about as much as I feel like dealing with in the way of rudeness right now, so have a good one.
Fwiw, I thought it was interesting.
So we all voted Kamala, and we all think the Dems are fucking up again and we can’t let the literal fucking fascists win.
What are we arguing about again? Is it simply “Dems, with notable or temporary exception are not doing enough and they need to”?
If we’re all on board with the duty to vote and barring some miracle third party candidate we’ll be voting Dem, I think we could get more substantive criticism out there.
I guess when I see “Dems suck” or “don’t blame the voters” I think its an argument against voting which we saw a lot of, or “Harris was terrible” which I (very surprisingly) disagree with.
No one seems to be interested in asking what I’d want to see to vote for them, only that I’m wrong for the vote that I might or might not cast in 3.5 years time, which I find very interesting on an intellectual level.
I dunno, I think “what you want to see” is implied of course. Like, if trump changed to Democrat and “somehow” won the primaries, i don’t think anyone would expect you to vote for that fucker. Or, shit, Bob Menendez or some garbage like that. I don’t know what the DNC thinks their plan is, but they went with two women bookending Biden and neither won against the literal worst person ever to run. So, I think they’re probably busy wondering if they’ll be in the jobs to make campaign decisions.
But then I don’t think Harris was bad at all. I think the worst thing we can say (outside of the support for Israel, which - is a whole other thing) is that she was more unknown than known. I didn’t think she’d have any momentum at all and was pleasantly surprised to find she had a lot. Clearly intelligent, able to manage at that level, and checked most all of the position boxes I wanted in terms of progress in education, finance, climate, regulation, etc.
Is what you want somehow significantly different from what Harris was? And fwiw I think there’s just a huge amount of frustration with the people who spent months on here grandstanding that they were never going to vote, that they were going to make Democrats “pay” for not specifically listing their particular unicorn in every stump speech and like that. People who should have known better and were either too young to know or too ignorant. Or trolling. Or literal disinformation farmers. Of course almost all of them magically disappeared when they got what they wanted.
I’m sorry that clearly fucking stating my issues and outlining the logic that leads to the invariable conclusion is ‘reading into things’, and I’m sorry that being fucking pissed that, even after it’s been pointed out numerous times, that you’re treating the lives of marginalized groups in the US, including my fucking life, as a ‘prize’ that needs to be ‘won’ by the Blue fucking Circus before your holy hand will deign to vote against our murder on your fucking ballot. I understand that my tone is making you uncomfortable, when you would prefer asspats for endorsing my death. Agree to disagree, right? It’s nothing major. Just another game to play and then go home safe and snug every night.
Have the day you plan to vote for.
I don’t have a plan yet. No one seems to be interested in asking what I’d want to see to vote for them, only that I’m wrong for the vote that I might or might not cast in 3.5 years time, which I find very interesting on an intellectual level.
It’s almost like I’m expected to uncritically serve up my vote to them for not being the other party.
It’s almost like the other party are literal fucking fascists who are intent on murdering people, yet you think that the lives of the murdered is ‘not enough’ entertainment for you to oppose literal fucking fascism.
“I MIGHT vote against the Nazis, I don’t know yet! It depends on how entertaining the SDP is!”
And then you wonder why potential Aktion T4 victims spit in your food.
If it really is exactly like that (and clearly it is) this has been a waste of both our times, frankly.