• bigmamoth@lemmy.world
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    Everyone in the MAGA sphere then went on to lie about the left as violent because of this.

    in the article u link he s criticized for that. And the left being violent isnt a first and like i said before the shooter is antifa affiliated and while we didnt have the shooter we had the bullet casing before with antifa slogan.

    Going so far as to delete the DOJ study proving the right is responsible for 70% of mass shootings.

    heard about that story but from i understand it was data that was missrepresented same as the adl one who post all anti goovernement action as far right. but that s not the subject here.

    Show me this law. It does not exist. Fox News can lie to you. It’s technically entertainment and not news. Their lawyers argued this in court and won.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/73.1217

    about the next point u have your answer in this part “within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the United States. You must “know” that what you are saying is a lie to make you guilty of this crime.”

    Patel didn’t know the person first arrested for the shooting was obviously not the culprit. But he lied and said he was. Saying this with certainty when the facts are unknown is a lie. Seeing as Patel is part of the Judicial branch, this is also illegal.

    ??? did u misstype ? anyway im not sure he was lying since he retract his statement in 2 hour. like see he retract false statement. The same i said kiemel should be abble to do

    It is incredibly disheartening to hear you believe that Kimmel is guilty of some crime here instead of the FBI being lead by an incompetent

    im all for a wolrd where incompetence is a crime.

    eagerly lying about a suspect in custody to fit a narrative before any information about them is confirmed. The damage caused by this is unquestionably larger than anything Kimmel has done

    they retracted false informations. in the end the killer is still a leftist. Also not abide by the same law. but i agree bad information comming from the head of the fbi is bad and i condomne thoses

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      I’m sorry, but you’re hopeless.

      The shooter being a “leftist” is obviously all you care about. Not the truth. Not what’s legal. It doesn’t matter at all to you that the FBI literally lied about the shooter being a leftist before they even caught the real guy.

      Do you not understand how that means they are willing to lie to you about anyone being a leftist before there’s evidence?

      Do you not understand that anything Trumps team calls left you’ll just hate without thinking about it? Do you not understand how you’ve literally already proven this is the case with Kirks shooter? It’s also painfully obvious why you can’t bother to admit how much Trump lies.

      Because then you might understand how many innocent people have already been punished simply because Trump lied about them being leftist / illegal / bad to you just to get votes.

      Literally thousands of examples of this exist by the way.

      It would be great if you could actually care about this, instead of the snowflake reaction you’re having about Kimmel.

      But it does explain why this country has gone to shit. Because you let TV tell you who the bad guys are, and didnt bother to make sure TV wasn’t lying to you about it. So now Americans are the bad guys, and you’re okay with that because they’re “leftists”.

      Trump can now say whatever he wants and you will believe it as true without ever checking. Hell, you’ll even defend his lies now. Just as you have with the removal of the DOJ report on violent right wing extremism.

      Here’s two more Independant studies all proving the data in the deleted report was true: (Which in turn proves you defended the lie about the data being poor before checking to see if was true.)

      https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/comparison-political-violence-left-wing-right-wing-and-islamist-extremists-united

      we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. In the United States, we find no difference between the level of violence perpetrated by right-wing and Islamist extremists. However, differences in violence emerge on the global level, with Islamist extremists being more likely than right-wing extremists to engage in more violent acts.

      https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024

      Extremist-related killings in recent years have primarily been committed by far-right extremists. Mass shootings caused a substantial portion of those deaths. The white supremacist mass shooter who attacked Latinos at a Walmart in El Paso in 2019, killing 23 people, was responsible by himself for almost half of the 51 extremist-related deaths that year. The lower numbers since then can substantially be attributed to fewer far-right mass killing events (with numerous planned incidents prevented by law enforcement) and fewer deaths at some that did occur. One must travel back to the year 2000, which saw nine killings committed by far-right extremists, to find a lower number of deaths from right-wing extremists than the 13 in 2024.

      The above is true, do you agree? Yes or no answer is all you need. Prove you care about the truth more than Trump by admitting what he won’t.