Counter arguments, a hotdog is a sausage, the bread is a condament. When you buy hotdogs at the store you’re taking about the pack, when you’re cooking a hotdog, you’re taking about the sausage being cooked. A hotdog on the grill is not in the bun. When you’re eating a hotdog without a bun, you’re still eating a hotdog.
In the other direction, a hotdog with mustard is still called a hotdog meaning the mustard has no say in the state of the hotdog.
Furthermore, we have splitlink sandwiches so a sausage as sandwich still needs the sandwich modifier. When I say “hotdog sandwich” it’s bothersome because it conjures the idea of hot dogs between two slices of bread.
So if a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the bread, and a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the mustard, than the bread plays the same role and becomes a condament for the eating of a hotdog that belongs firmly in the category of sausage.
Spare points to back this up is taco, chicken taco, fish taco, street taco, all need the modifier “taco”. If I say we’re having fish and serve a tuna taco, I’ve not given you the accurate information. The same goes for wraps, without the “wrap” modifier you get different information. In reverse, we do not ask for a bun to get a hotdog. Following along that line, we have split bun sandwiches which use a bun and are not explicitly hotdogs.
Lastly, with this information you can order the incredibly cursed, split link split bun sandwich with mustard which presents as a cut hotdog with mustard but is in fact an entirely different thing all together.
A hotdog is a specific type of soft sausage inside a bun. If you have just the sausage part you would not call that a hotdog (at least not where I live) but a frankfurter (we have a special word for this type of sausage).
The bread needs to be a certain shape as well. Long round and thin. Either one where it goes in from the top (sliced by length)
like this or pushed in the same way as the longer axis of bread goes like this
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If you put it inside two slices of bread you made a frankfurter sandwich. So thus it needs to be the right sausage in the right bread to be considered a hotdog.
See, I think this may be a regional issue more than a semantic issue because around these parts that horrifying electric bun spike is the quickest way to not get invited to the next barbique.
So I looked this up and found a restaurant in Germany? The food looks amazing and I’m going to have to find recipes for half their menu.
So the way this discussion is going, it reminds me of an old cookbook that describes curry as “a gravy laden with spices and made with the milk of coconut.” While the description conveys the details well, I don’t think any sane person would say gravy and curry are the same category. The issue comes from the difference in cultural meanings and the way languages steal words. My classifications are based off the mid western American concepts of hotdog and there for would not work outside of a region familiar with it.
I guess the only good option to finally solvr this debate would be a latin taxonomy like we do for animals and plants.
I don’t think any sane person would say gravy and curry are the same category.
Why? Culinary, curry and gravy are quite similar, and serve similar functions. Obviously they don’t taste all that similar, but I don’t think that really matters much when you consider the vast variety of flavors that curries come in.
And actually, now that I think of it, Japanese curries do share quite a few flavors with a Western meat-dripping-based gravy. In fact, I’m pretty sure the directions on the package curry cubes I get from the Asian grocer refer to the curry sauce as “gravy”. So yeah, actually, plenty of sane people put curry and gravy in the same category, for solid reasons.
Counter arguments, a hotdog is a sausage, the bread is a condament. When you buy hotdogs at the store you’re taking about the pack, when you’re cooking a hotdog, you’re taking about the sausage being cooked. A hotdog on the grill is not in the bun. When you’re eating a hotdog without a bun, you’re still eating a hotdog.
In the other direction, a hotdog with mustard is still called a hotdog meaning the mustard has no say in the state of the hotdog.
Furthermore, we have splitlink sandwiches so a sausage as sandwich still needs the sandwich modifier. When I say “hotdog sandwich” it’s bothersome because it conjures the idea of hot dogs between two slices of bread.
So if a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the bread, and a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the mustard, than the bread plays the same role and becomes a condament for the eating of a hotdog that belongs firmly in the category of sausage.
Spare points to back this up is taco, chicken taco, fish taco, street taco, all need the modifier “taco”. If I say we’re having fish and serve a tuna taco, I’ve not given you the accurate information. The same goes for wraps, without the “wrap” modifier you get different information. In reverse, we do not ask for a bun to get a hotdog. Following along that line, we have split bun sandwiches which use a bun and are not explicitly hotdogs.
Lastly, with this information you can order the incredibly cursed, split link split bun sandwich with mustard which presents as a cut hotdog with mustard but is in fact an entirely different thing all together.
I will fight you on this.
A hotdog is a specific type of soft sausage inside a bun. If you have just the sausage part you would not call that a hotdog (at least not where I live) but a frankfurter (we have a special word for this type of sausage).
The bread needs to be a certain shape as well. Long round and thin. Either one where it goes in from the top (sliced by length)
If you put it inside two slices of bread you made a frankfurter sandwich. So thus it needs to be the right sausage in the right bread to be considered a hotdog.
i know you just googled but is that an ai hot dog
The first one? Doe not look AI to me
See, I think this may be a regional issue more than a semantic issue because around these parts that horrifying electric bun spike is the quickest way to not get invited to the next barbique.
We usually don’t even make hotdogs on barbeques. I cannot recall the last time we did. Balkan grill has so many better options to choose from.
So I looked this up and found a restaurant in Germany? The food looks amazing and I’m going to have to find recipes for half their menu.
So the way this discussion is going, it reminds me of an old cookbook that describes curry as “a gravy laden with spices and made with the milk of coconut.” While the description conveys the details well, I don’t think any sane person would say gravy and curry are the same category. The issue comes from the difference in cultural meanings and the way languages steal words. My classifications are based off the mid western American concepts of hotdog and there for would not work outside of a region familiar with it.
I guess the only good option to finally solvr this debate would be a latin taxonomy like we do for animals and plants.
Send me the name and place of the restaurant so I can check out how authentic their food is. Or I can send you some recipes.
Why? Culinary, curry and gravy are quite similar, and serve similar functions. Obviously they don’t taste all that similar, but I don’t think that really matters much when you consider the vast variety of flavors that curries come in.
And actually, now that I think of it, Japanese curries do share quite a few flavors with a Western meat-dripping-based gravy. In fact, I’m pretty sure the directions on the package curry cubes I get from the Asian grocer refer to the curry sauce as “gravy”. So yeah, actually, plenty of sane people put curry and gravy in the same category, for solid reasons.