How is the dog shitting in the house the Roomba’s fault?

I’m not giving Valve recognition, I’m recognizing that Valve offers good/useful products and services. Maybe I should have said “acknowledge” instead of “recognize”, but you’re saying something different than me.

People love them because they still offer good products and services, some of them completely for free. I think it’s perfectly valid to recognize and appreciate the good, even when there’s also bad.

Please use spoilers or mark NSFL

The last several final fantasy games have been done with realistic graphics though lol

It’s definitely defense. The amount of money spent and the number of people involved is insane, it guarantees incompetence at best, corruption at worst.

Try a SQL injection attack

Alternative alternative perspective: imagine being lifted up, against your will, and manipulated until you can see nothing but a vast blackness dotted with occasional white pinpricks and glimmers. You’re put back down, but now you have the craziest story to tell Gary at the feeding trough in the morning.

Sorry, but talking about how dental care sucks in other places too, in a post about dental services being rendered in exchange for statutory rape, sure does sound like making excuses.

Ones in fantasy novels

That’s nice, good job muddying the waters.

In how many of those other countries are minors tempted to perform sexual acts on government officials to receive said shitty dental care?

Mate, religious people didn’t fill the museums with dinosaurs without feathers.

Right, religious people fill their museums with justifications for dinosaurs being on the ark with all the other animals, and pseudoscientific “proof” of a 6000 year old earth that directly contradicts any real scientific evidence.

Also the irony of you saying that “religious people don’t fill museums with featherless dinos” and then immediately following it up with

Scientists gather evidence… then fill the gaps.

is insane lol. Like are you even approaching this conversation seriously at this point? I feel like you’re still missing my point, even though I’ve explained it multiple times now. What else can I do to explain it to you in a way you’ll understand?

I still feel like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of science, and that you’re trying to conflate the gap-filling that religious people do with the evidence gathering that science does. Which is a wholly disingenuous thing to do.

Where we don’t have proof, we have theories

Based on this sentence, I don’t think you understand how science works, which might be why we’re still talking past each other.

Also it seems like you’re still hung up on what humanity has done historically, but that’s not relevant at all to what I’m talking about. I’m speaking in a pragmatic sense, about what we should do, not what we have done.

we still have museums filled with dinosaurs without feathers

Because we’re still making discoveries and trying to nail down* the details of dino feathers. Feathers rarely fossilize, so it’s a really difficult thing to study.

there are people that preach the big bang theory as fact

Scientists present the big bang theory as fact because of the vast body of evidence that supports it. Just like germ theory, or evolution.

Shit, we still have people thinking the earth is flat.

Contrary to what the evidence shows, so idk what this has to do with anything.

We’re getting off track though. You originally made a claim basically saying that we don’t know enough to say God didn’t create the universe. I’m just trying to point out that that’s not how critical/scientific thinking works. You don’t invent an untestable conclusion and then say “well nothing disproves this yet, so it’s possible”. Not being able to disprove something says nothing about it’s possibility, and not having evidence of something is neither proof, nor disproof, but simply a gap in knowledge. We should be comfortable leaving those gaps empty until we find solid, evidence-based explanations that fill them. We shouldn’t prematurely fill them with untestable claims.

Tell that to the couple dozen propagations I have currently living in various sized vessels of water

Are we even capable of putting the pieces together that we’re getting?

Yes, absolutely, and more progress is made as more new evidence is found. The thing is, until that happens, scientists are perfectly comfortable with the gaps, and saying “I don’t know”, instead of filling those gaps with an evil sky wizard.

Do you think the astronomers/cosmologists/astrophysicists piecing together the origins of the universe are doing so without evidence?

we’re sure as shit nowhere near understanding anything enough to say a god DIDN’T do it.

But we also have zero solid evidence that a God did do it. Making and believing such an enormous claim without evidence is absolutely bananas

The only way you can come to the conclusion that “acceptance is the goal” of the Bible is by cherry picking from it.