• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Better get rid of every chemistry textbook containing a Mendelyev table. Marie Curie had a hand in a few of those.

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      10 hours ago

      Somehow, I dont think that’ll matter to much in a Taliban university. May as well just go back to “earth, water, air and fire”.

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        9 hours ago

        It will matter. Even if the leadership is backward as shit, those guys still need engineers, doctors and other skilled workers.

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            Id argue it’s gonna be much better than when america and NATO came to “civilize” them, or the russians came before that or the Brits came even before that. Afghanistan requires Change, but real change happens within, by the people, not fucking “white saviours”

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            7 hours ago

            In a lot of ways, I fear that won’t be true and it’ll be held up as a shitty example of why misogyny ‘works’

            Case in point, they can still sell their opium for a lot of money and use that money to bring in engineers from SEAsia that will risk it for the big money they’re being promised.

            They can bring in nurses, etc with the same money, it’s a LOT of a money and unlike Oil, there isn’t a ‘opidollar’ like the ‘petrodollar’

            It’s despressing that the right might run and win this shit, I’m just so tired of it.

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              I hope for all our sakes that you’re wrong, but who knows. I personally dont think importing skilled slave labour is a winning strategy long term, disgruntled engineers aren’t going to be doing their best work.

              The other problem is that no matter how bad it goes, they can spend the next 15-20 years blaming their problems on the Americans, so itll be a while before any real introspection occurs.

              Absolutely agree how depressing this all is. :(

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        9 hours ago

        By your powers combined I am Captain Backwards!

        Captain Backwards

        He’s a Zero, gonna take the Women out of school now

        He’s the right wing, magnified and he fights against our equal rights

  • It'sbetterwithbutter@lemmus.org
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    10 hours ago

    And now with this chatter coming from the US about retaking Baghram Airbase it’s likely a deal will be made with them, you know, turn a blind eye…

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    It’s sad what has been happening in Afghanistan during and after the withdrawal of American troops. The world sighed once, then turned it’s attention elsewhere. But it keeps happening.

    One cannot deny that all countries who used Afghanistan as a geopolitical joker for decades, bear a lot of responsibility here.
    Esp. during the last 3 this could have been handled much, much better. But US foreign policy was firmly in the grip of a simplified Good vs Bad ethic narrative by then. Which in turn has only been a veneer for its greed.

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      Gtfo with that since america left it is sad. The US had a corrupt regime in place, not anyone’s idea of good governance. Why are you tooling against afghanistan? Looking to steal their currency reserves again?

      All these posts just reek of ignorance as to what the United States had going on over there, and selective outrage to justify stealing from them, of which their poor will suffer as always the regime will be stronger.

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      8 hours ago

      Gtfo with that since america left it is sad. The US had a corrupt regime in place, not anyone’s idea of good governance. Why are you tooling against afghanistan? Looking to steal their currency reserves again?

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        I didn’t mean to say that Afghanistan was in a good place before America left, if that’s what you’re upset about? Not quite sure what you mean tbh.

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          Why the concerted effort attacking the afghans for something others are guilty of? Saudis, etc.

          This campaign stinks, probably us govt funded to further justify sanctions and stealing their currency going through international institutions.

          Invading afghanistan and not having a marshall plan was always going to end lime this. This being better than us occupation in many respects because the taliban are honest and not corrupt from the top down as our puppet was.

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            [Taliban rule] being better than us occupation in many respects

            Unless you happen to be a woman. So literally half of the population.

            Fuck off dude.

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              Well nothing helps those women out like stealing their foreign currency reserves so they can’t buy food. Or sanctioning their government. It is not like there are 100 other countries that are not respecting women’s rights that don’t get the same treatment from you for some reason? Because you are being too old against the Taliban by somebody with an agenda here.

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                They were much better off before, foreign currency stolen or not. Now they’ve lost most of their basic rights - it’s terrifying.

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                  If you think they were better under the puppet regime you really don’t know what we had going on over there. The taliban are popular because they’re honest. Our hodgepodge of Warlords was anything but honest. Never stood a chance of winning over the country’s population because it never actually tried to. Something every single Inspector General said when they looked at Afghanistan and our position there for 20 years.

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              7 hours ago

              These criticisms are broadly engineered and done to justify sanctions and stealing foreign currency reserves in case you didn’t know that.

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                Obviously the women don’t matter, no one cares about women. Duh. People have to fucking engineer a comment to make it seem like they do as a cover for literally anything else, as everything else is more important than women. Obviously. It’s so obvious that you clearly have no obligation to engage with the actual content of the post under discussion here, as it’s about women and therefore not even worth mentioning. Unless you’re trying to engineer some criticism, obviously.

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    Yet you are only wringing your hands on afghanistan, not saudi arabia or elsewhere.

    Seems like a concerted effort to sanction the regime, steal their currency in the global markets, and prevent them from buying food. Biden actively tried to starve those woman he claimed to care about too when he personally decided to steal half of Afghanistan’s currency reserves they desperately needed to buy food to give to the 9/11 victims families for not extraditing and accused suspect to their hated enemy. I think you should rethink how much of a crime that is, not extraditing to an untrustworthy partner, let alone one that tortures people.

    All of these Afghanistan posts just reek. Impoverishing them will not give woman more rights. Seeing as women are having their rights removed in the west here maybe you should concentrate on that?

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        7 hours ago

        Why are you up in the arms about the tail man and not other cultures that don’t respect women’s rights?

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      What makes you think that? The Saudis are awful too, no one sane would say they’re not.

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        I definitely definitely don’t agree with the person you’re responding to, but if you know the whole history of how the middle east got to where it is today, seeing the British Broadcasting Corporation tut tut about human rights in the area might make you lose your mind as well.

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      Yes, the theft of Afghanistan’s currency reserves was shameful and yes, no government in the world right now actually gives a shit about human rights in Afghanistan, but the Taliban are still violent misogynists and theocrats who should be overthrown. If I were Afghani I would be willing to work with a foreign government to do that, even though I know how badly that has worked out for Afghanistan in the past, because the Taliban really are that awful.