For context, the IOF tortured Greta. Proudly bragging about dragging her on all fours across the ground to kiss the Zionists’ flag.
I. Am. Tired.
For context, the IOF tortured Greta. Proudly bragging about dragging her on all fours across the ground to kiss the Zionists’ flag.
I. Am. Tired.
Every moment we dont glass that shit hole is another atrocity we are complicit in.
Right, because the only thing that can stop a bad mass slaughter is, of course, the good mass slaughter - a concept that totally makes sense
I’m largely a pacifist, but yes, the only thing that will stop Israel is overwhelming force.
Regime change. Peaceful would be best.
It’s never going to happen.
The only thing that stops this war is if Palestine gets their hands on a nuke. Mutually-assured destruction would force peaceful international intervention.
You think Palestine somehow becoming a nuclear power is more likely than the possibility that a globally condemned far right government that relies on foreign aid would undergo regime change?
Absolutely not.
Neither will happen. This war will continue indefinitely and the same people profiting handsomely off of it now will continue to do so.
They’re committing genocide; I don’t think killing them is necessarily good, but its moral cost is precisely zero, the value if their lives is not and should not be a cobsideration, and ending them all very quickly would stop the problem.
If you care more about the genociders than the people theyre exterminating literally right now then you are a monster.
The israeli population is not committing genocide, you are just a stinking antisemite. Take your hate somewhere else, loser.
https://archive.is/20250622223902/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-28/ty-article-magazine/.premium/yes-to-transfer-82-of-jewish-israelis-back-expelling-gazans/00000197-12a4-df22-a9d7-9ef6af930000
The link doesn’t work and I have yet to see the actual source poll of that screenshot instead of websites reporting on reporting of other websites.
Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper, is the source of that poll. Here’s the original link to the article that discusses it (it’s paywalled, which is probably why it’s so hard to find).
The poll was conducted in May, so the numbers have probably changed a bit, but I totally understand your skepticism. Unfortunately, as an American Jew who is the grandchild of Holocaust survivors, I’ve spent a lot of time in Israel, have Israeli family, and I have no trouble believing these numbers. It’s difficult not to generalize, but based on my personal experiences with my family, as well as talking with Israeli Jews, Israeli Arabs, and Palestinians who live in the occupied territories, there is disgusting widespread hatred against Palestinians and Muslims in general that has been completely normalized across Israeli society. It’s by no means every single person, there are still loads of lefty anti-establishment and anti-Zionist movements, but I have no trouble saying that the majority of Israelis hold abhorrent views about Palestinians. It’s definitely not antisemitic to describe the hatred I’ve witnessed coming from Jews against Palestinians. I can’t even count the number of horrendous things I’ve seen.
Racial slurs are the norm, racial profiling is legal and expected at the entry to every public business, segregation is expected and accepted, Jewish children are taught to hate Palestinians, and every Israeli (with some exceptions) is conscripted into the military, so they are all indoctrinated into a system of state violence.
The person you were responding to seems to think that murder is acceptable in service of a just cause, and I couldn’t disagree more. Murder and violence are never justified, even against those committing them.
I was mostly responding to the comment of “The israeli population is not committing genocide”, because as you say, Palestinian dehumanization and hatred is widespread. I do not claim that it’s every single person, but it’s high enough for me that it’s obviously a vanishingly small, practically insignificant minority that isn’t supportive of genocide.
I can’t think of the last time an oppressed group successfully politely asked their oppressors to stop and had it work.
Diplomacy has been tried repeatedly, and has never been done in good faith by Israel or Zionists. When diplomacy and peaceful protest fails, what other options are left?
Even Colombia’s president said that he wants to put together a unified military of the world to stop the genocide by force, and I agree with that notion. It’s long past due.
(I am, for the record, Palestinian in diaspora)
How much does Bibi pay you?
It’s so telling that the only reason to be against antisemitism that you can fathom is a monetary one. Sadge.
Glassing is not a solution. You drop a bomb and make sand into glass but you haven’t actually changed the regime. You haven’t changed who does and does not have power. You haven’t changed who is considered human or less than. You haven’t changed what the public of that country thinks. You haven’t changed much of anything.
Boycotting is effective. It worked on South Africa. It worked in many other cases. It needs critical mass. It needs a sufficient portion of the relevant population to participate. Anyone who could buy an Israeli product and does not because of what they are doing in Gaza is making change. Anyone who refuses to participate in international events because Israel is there is making change. Anyone who refuses to perform in Israel is making change.
Saying “glass them” feels good, it feels cathartic and just and right. It is not right. It doesn’t work. It is morally faulty. Glassing Israel or part thereof would be the beginning of a much larger war, killing many more people. It would escalate existing conflict into something somehow even larger. It is understandable you would want to say it, but it does not actually make the world better. Maybe there is nothing you personally can do to make the world better in this case, and if so that sucks. But you don’t have to make the world worse because you can’t make it better.
Casually calling for murder of an entire countries worth of humans. Tell me again how this isn’t antisemitism instead of the very valid and necessary criticism of Israels government and their army?
Why do you think that is antisemitism? I don’t agree with the bombing, but what does it have to do with the inhabitants being jewish?
It doesn’t, they’re conflating a country that was squeezed into existence in the 1940s with a religion and/or ethnic group.
Which is exactly what the shit bag politicians who are genociding Palestinians WANT people to do, as any criticism can be waved away by calling it “antisemitism”
Are they Jewish? More than america Canada or Ireland?
But bombing Israel in this case wouldn’t be about hating jewish people, it would be about hating the actions Israel is currently taking.
Yep. Paradox of
toleranceongoing preventable fucking genocideHmm yeah what does murdering all humans in a country that just so happens to be majority jewish have to do with antisemitism? Weird how I don’t read the same about murdering all humans in the USA when their government is partly responsible for the current genocide as well and for countless human rights violations before.
So your logic is that Israel is only hated on in this way because a lot of jewish people live there?
Does that mean 9/11 was anti-christian according to you?
I can’t follow your mental gymnastics there, sorry.
Calling to genocide civilians for the action of their government is wrong, mkay?
I agree, mkay, just not that it’s antisemitism.
Well thats the point. People call for the genocide of Israelis but not e.g. of the entire US because they have internalized antisemitism.
What do you mean with “people”. I’m sure “people” have wanted the genocide of the US. Most people don’t, just like most people don’t argue for the genocide of the entirety of Israel.
When these assholes saw the end coming in Europe they doubled down on the genocides rather than trying to escape, avoid prosecution, consolidate wins, or even minimize casualties.
They need to be taken out and taken out fast enough they don’t have time to do more harm.
The same way it’s not homophobic–I don’t see the connection.