Why it matters: If the White House acts on that legal analysis, it would dramatically escalate President Trump’s pressure on Senate Democrats to end the week-old shutdown by denying back pay to as many as 750,000 federal workers after the shutdown.
I’m not sure it would. In the past, federal workers were always paid after the government opened up. If they aren’t paid this time when the GOP holds both the Executive and the Legislative branches, it would be silly to claim the Democrats would have the power to withhold payment.
This has occured at least 47 times I believe since Reagan started shutting down the government. If they got paid for all 46 other times, and not this one… It really should be pointing to this administration
Yes, objectively. People overwhelmingly blame the GOP, by 17 points. Both the majority of Dems and independents blame Trump, with even 10% of Republicans blaming him.
Oh I definitely think they’re getting the heat this time, I was more curious about the other shutdowns “in recent memory”. Because talking to my conservative parents and others that doesn’t seem as clear.
Trump’s approval rating dropped during the shutdown.[21][22] A majority of Americans opposed exploitation of the shutdown as a negotiating strategy and held Trump responsible for the shutdown: A CBS News poll found that 71% of Americans considered the border wall “not worth the shutdown”[23] and a Washington Post/ABC News poll found that 53% of Americans blamed Trump and Republicans for the shutdown, compared to 34% who blamed Democrats and 10% who blamed both parties.[24]
Its not even ambiguous. Your parents are likely just very I’ll iformed if they think anyone but the GOP is percieved as responsible for these farces.
It doesn’t stop them saying it. It stops it from being credible. Ever other GOP and Democratic President has always paid, even in trump’s first term during that shutdown. Now suddenly they can’t? If you mess with a worker’s pay you have highly reactive results.
I’m not sure it would. In the past, federal workers were always paid after the government opened up. If they aren’t paid this time when the GOP holds both the Executive and the Legislative branches, it would be silly to claim the Democrats would have the power to withhold payment.
This has occured at least 47 times I believe since Reagan started shutting down the government. If they got paid for all 46 other times, and not this one… It really should be pointing to this administration
Republicans have been blamed for every shutdown in recent memory by the polled general public. This is a losing battle for them no matter what happens
In our filter bubbles maybe, but does broader public polling support that sentiment?
Yes, objectively. People overwhelmingly blame the GOP, by 17 points. Both the majority of Dems and independents blame Trump, with even 10% of Republicans blaming him.
Oh I definitely think they’re getting the heat this time, I was more curious about the other shutdowns “in recent memory”. Because talking to my conservative parents and others that doesn’t seem as clear.
The last shutdown in recent memory was also Trump, in 2019. The majority of voters accurately blamed him for that one.
Its not even ambiguous. Your parents are likely just very I’ll iformed if they think anyone but the GOP is percieved as responsible for these farces.
Apparently big change comes with the number 47…
Why would that stop them from saying so?
It doesn’t stop them saying it. It stops it from being credible. Ever other GOP and Democratic President has always paid, even in trump’s first term during that shutdown. Now suddenly they can’t? If you mess with a worker’s pay you have highly reactive results.
You’re so close.
If you haven’t noticed, Trump is baiting for riots.
Right but he’ll get his riots regardless. You can say “don’t fall for it” but riots like this are police creations.
I’ve seen a lot of YouTube videos that have titles like “boss didn’t pay man for two weeks then THIS happened “
It’s normally a video of a dude fucking wrecking the place with a tank made out of a forklift or something.
Marvin Heemeyer?
Staplerfahrer Klaus?
These people don’t care about credibility.
These people DO care about their paycheck, thats the difference here.