They’re saying it’s okay if they helped but not saying to what extent it is okay to them
It is imperialism either way. No matter the degree.
does murdering people count as helping etc.
Depends on who you ask. Both imperialism and covert murder by the state are done in the interest of the enacting nation. And I refuse to confuse these interests with my own (or those of “the people”).
They’re condoning helping to oust Yanukovych. If that counts as imperialism then yes they seem to be condoning at least that specific action, though we don’t know the extent of the help they’re condoning. But you were talking about covert violence, I don’t think they said anything about that
We don’t know if CIA was involved or party to any of that violence though. That’s why condoning CIA help doesn’t mean they’re immediately condoning covert murders or kicking puppies (hah) or other things you compared it to.
If you want to know what they are specifically condoning, you could try to achieve that by asking them. Now we’re just talking about what they could have meant.
It is imperialism either way. No matter the degree.
Depends on who you ask. Both imperialism and covert murder by the state are done in the interest of the enacting nation. And I refuse to confuse these interests with my own (or those of “the people”).
I just don’t think it counts as covert violence you mentioned earlier if CIA isn’t party to or in some degree involved in the violence
But we’re talking hypotheticals here. Of course it’s not violence if it didn’t occur.
Let’s say I say the statement: “It’s ok if I kick puppies!” Is that stance ok to have, if I’ve never kicked a puppy?
But they weren’t explicitly condoning violence as you are doing in your example. So again it’s not the same
They’re condoning hypothetical imperialism.
They’re condoning helping to oust Yanukovych. If that counts as imperialism then yes they seem to be condoning at least that specific action, though we don’t know the extent of the help they’re condoning. But you were talking about covert violence, I don’t think they said anything about that
Imperialism includes covert violence.
Do you think the Euromaidan was completely violence free? Ukrainian military has bombed eastern Ukraine for years after Euromaidan.
We don’t know if CIA was involved or party to any of that violence though. That’s why condoning CIA help doesn’t mean they’re immediately condoning covert murders or kicking puppies (hah) or other things you compared it to.
If you want to know what they are specifically condoning, you could try to achieve that by asking them. Now we’re just talking about what they could have meant.
It’s still imperialism. I’ve stated that they condone imperialism. Nothing more (kicking puppies), nothing less (political violence).