Irish and Islamic Arab scholars were widely sought during medieval era because their countries contained the last surviving copies of the entire roman classical canon and before, locked up in monasteries with monks and scribes copying them by hand, in all different languages, since the fall of Rome and the spread of the catholic and islamic religion into those areas.
In the dark ages, they were the only people with any access to information about the past, they spoke and could read and write many languages. Advanced mathematics were developed in Iraq in the 9th century, or even earlier in the vedas, and made their way to Europe in the 12th century. Fibonacci made a name for himself in Italy through these discoveries, which had a thriving intellectual culture in various regions for the larger part of the feudal era.
So no I dont think its a recent idea. The ruling class in every era has always needed the educated to interpret the world. The formation of an educated middle class is fairly recent, but as the middle class gets squeezed harder, look how the first thing to go is quality public education.
A sharp, curious and questioning mind is route to whatever passes for freedom in any age. Whether or not that opportunity is available to everyone is a sure indicator of a whether a society is more free, or more repressive.
That’s not what is in question. The question was that everyone needs education for mobility.
Once the powerful got their special information, do you think serf #2 would get the same treatment?
“The ruling class in every era has always needed the educated to interpret the world.”
A naive take at best. They wanted advantage and weaponry. Once they got that from one educated person, what advantage was there for anyone else to know it? If anything, it was to the advantage of the ruling class to make sure no one else knew.
A wiggler? Did you learn that on the first day at sophistry class at fallacy school? Is that a technical term or are you completely, totally, irredeemably full of your own farts
There would have been a patron behind the serf to even allow him school to begin with. So the serf using calculus is because a Duke felt he had promise.
For centuries it was called “gatekeeping.” Education is the means of mobility. The elites want that limited.
I doubt the term was used. Perhaps “guild”?
Education as a means of mobility is a recent idea, I’d say finding cubic miles of oil allowed that to happen.
What use could a medieval serf make of calculus?
Irish and Islamic Arab scholars were widely sought during medieval era because their countries contained the last surviving copies of the entire roman classical canon and before, locked up in monasteries with monks and scribes copying them by hand, in all different languages, since the fall of Rome and the spread of the catholic and islamic religion into those areas.
In the dark ages, they were the only people with any access to information about the past, they spoke and could read and write many languages. Advanced mathematics were developed in Iraq in the 9th century, or even earlier in the vedas, and made their way to Europe in the 12th century. Fibonacci made a name for himself in Italy through these discoveries, which had a thriving intellectual culture in various regions for the larger part of the feudal era.
So no I dont think its a recent idea. The ruling class in every era has always needed the educated to interpret the world. The formation of an educated middle class is fairly recent, but as the middle class gets squeezed harder, look how the first thing to go is quality public education.
A sharp, curious and questioning mind is route to whatever passes for freedom in any age. Whether or not that opportunity is available to everyone is a sure indicator of a whether a society is more free, or more repressive.
That’s not what is in question. The question was that everyone needs education for mobility.
Once the powerful got their special information, do you think serf #2 would get the same treatment?
“The ruling class in every era has always needed the educated to interpret the world.”
A naive take at best. They wanted advantage and weaponry. Once they got that from one educated person, what advantage was there for anyone else to know it? If anything, it was to the advantage of the ruling class to make sure no one else knew.
Ah a rationalist. That’s what I love about rationalism, any relationship to reality is severely rationed
Ah, a wiggler. That’s what I love about wigglers, any argument they don’t even understand they can wiggle out of.
A wiggler? Did you learn that on the first day at sophistry class at fallacy school? Is that a technical term or are you completely, totally, irredeemably full of your own farts
The latter.
Nice
There would have been a patron behind the serf to even allow him school to begin with. So the serf using calculus is because a Duke felt he had promise.